info request: Panzerjäger Abteilung 175 (Pz.Jäg.Komp.1175) 75 Infanterie Division

[Panzer Rob]

Hi guys-

Just wondering if anyone can help me find some info on Panzerjäger-Kompanie 1175, Panzerjäger Abteilung 175, 75 Infanterie-Division from roughly mid 1944 to wars end.

I've already checked out lexicon.de, axis history forum, feldgrau, etc. but I haven't been able to turn up much. I'm most interested in exactly which self-propelled anti-tank vehicles they were outfitted with, and details of their combat history from roughly mid-June of 1944 through May of 1945.

Any help will be most appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Rob

[Larry deZeng]

Since there are no primary records for units below division-level, and since there are no primary divisional records after December 1943 (with a few exceptions) or corps records after mid-1944 (with a few exceptions), and since there is no published history of 75. ID, then I would say your chances of finding details on the Kompanie or the Abteilung are not good. The only thing I can suggest is try the tankie web sites.

--Larry

[Panzer Rob]

Since there are no primary records for units below division-level, and since there are no primary divisional records after December 1943 (with a few exceptions) or corps records after mid-1944 (with a few exceptions), and since there is no published history of 75. ID, then I would say your chances of finding details on the Kompanie or the Abteilung are not good. The only thing I can suggest is try the tankie web sites.

--Larry

Larry-

Thanks for taking the time to reply, I appreciate it. I know that there are some collectors who specialize with collecting/researching specific units, so it never hurts to ask

Does anyone have any 75.I.D. Wehrpäße with combat entries towards the last year of the war? If so, please post them here...

Thanks!
Rob

[bhholst]

Hello Rob.
A partial answer may be in the following information derived from Tessin:
Pz.Jg.Abt. 175 in 1944 relinquished the 3 rd company but received the Stug.Abt. 1175 from Stug.Abt. 1100 and a 3.( Fla.) Kp. to replace the dissolved 3rd Kp..
The unit was subordinated to 75.I.D. and deployed on the eastern front ( 1944 Tscherkassy, Brody and Karpatian Mountains).In 1945 deployed in Upper Slesia.
While the above is how Tessin reports the situation I believe it to be somewhat misleading re." received the Stug.Abt. 1175 from Stug.Abt. 1100" which does not exactly make sense. But one may construe it as follows: received one company from 1100 which was numbered Stug.Batterie 1175 within Pz.Jg. Abt. 175. This scenario would resemble a similar situation I recall from an earlier case. Pz.Jg.Abteilungen normally did not contain Sturmgeschuetze so needed to be somehow distinguished.
Note: I could not locate any information on Stug.Abt. 1100 in my German language book about Sturmartillerie ( Sturmartillerie Fels in der Brandung).

Bernhard H. Holst

[Panzer Rob]

Hello Rob.
A partial answer may be in the following information derived from Tessin: Pz.Jg.Abt. 175 in 1944 relinquished the 3rd company but received the Stug.Abt. 1175 from Stug.Abt. 1100 and a 3.( Fla.) Kp. to replace the dissolved 3rd Kp. The unit was subordinated to 75.I.D. and deployed on the eastern front ( 1944 Tscherkassy, Brody and Karpatian Mountains). In 1945 deployed in Upper Slesia.

While the above is how Tessin reports the situation I believe it to be somewhat misleading re." received the Stug.Abt. 1175 from Stug.Abt. 1100" which does not exactly make sense. But one may construe it as follows: received one company from 1100 which was numbered Stug.Batterie 1175 within Pz.Jg. Abt. 175.

This scenario would resemble a similar situation I recall from an earlier case. Pz.Jg.Abteilungen normally did not contain Sturmgeschuetze so needed to be somehow distinguished. Note: I could not locate any information on Stug.Abt. 1100 in my German language book about Sturmartillerie ( Sturmartillerie Fels in der Brandung).

Bernhard H. Holst

Bernhard,

Thank you so much for taking the time to help me out with my search. I appreciate it!

Yes, the Tessin info is a bit confusing... To me it sounds as though he is saying that the 3.komp of Pz.Jäg.Abt.175 was disolved and reformed, perhaps partially from StuG.Abt.1100. It would make sense that Pz.Jäg.Abt.1175 received a complement of StuG's from StuG.Abt.1100 but based on what I have turned up, Pz.Jg.Komp.1175 was formed on 06 October 1944 by renaming StuG.Abt.1175.

So, it looks like the breakdown is as follows:

Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1175 formed on 6.6.1944 (by renaming Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1601) with three companies:

1.Komp: towed 7,5cm Pak.40
2.Komp: StuG.III
3.Komp: towed 2,0cm Flak.38

renamed

Panzerjäger-Kompanie 1175 (on 06.Oct.1944)

renamed

Jagdpanzer-Kompanie 1175 (on 27.Feb.1945)




Here's some great info I received from Martin Block which helped me put together the above:

"Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1175 was formed on 6.6.1944 by simply renaming Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1601, a 'Heerestruppen' unit formed itself by renaming the former Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1348 of the 348. Inf.Div. which had been equipped with 10 StuG III in Feb/Mar 1944 in France.

On 6.10.1944 it was renamed to Pz.Jg.Kp.1175 and on 27.2.1945 to Jagdpz.Kp. 1175. Although records do not show any replacement Sturmgeschütze being sent to 75. Inf.Div. during 1944/45 it appears a few might have been taken over perhaps from other units leaving the front for refit because by 30.12.1944 the number of available StuG III had risen to 12. Last report I know of is dated 15.4.1945 when still 9 StuG III were on hand.

During the same time frame 1944/45 the other two companies of Pz.Jg.Abt. 175 were equipped with towed 7,5 cm Pak 40 (1. Kp.) and towed 2cm Flak 38 (3. Kp.)

I do not have further details about the combat history of Stu.Gesch.Abt. 1175. It remained in action with the 75. Inf.Div. until the end of the war."


Rob

[Larry deZeng]

Good old Martin Block! He's the best fellow to turn to for the most obscure and most difficult questions concerning armor. What Leo Niehorster is to KStN details and detailed unit breakdowns, Martin is to the Panzerwaffe, especially organizational details and equipment. I remember him well from Feldgrau.

Anyway, I am please he was able to answer most of your questions, Rob. As with just about everything, there is usually someone who has the answers. The tough part is finding that someone, but today's internet makes that task a lot easier and faster than it used to be.

And a big thanks for sharing your information with us.

Best,

--Larry