Shoulderboard #'s = Brig., Regt., or Divisions??

[vonStubben]

What do numbers on shoulderboards represent?

Do they represent the number of a Brigade, Battalion, Regiment, or Division?

Can a person begin research on a particular unit simply by the number on a pair of shoulderboards?

Reason I am asking is that I have a really nice, all original, nothing switched, field tailor made tunic and pants with numbered boards. It is obvious from the award loops that the Oberfeldwebel who wore this uniform had earned the special presentation gold grade of the close combat clasp and I want to try to narrow down who he might have been.

Is there a list of Gold CCC receipients?

Any help would be appreciated.


Thanks,

Chuck

[Larry deZeng]

What do numbers on shoulderboards represent?
(1) Do they represent the number of a Brigade, Battalion, Regiment, or Division?
(2) Can a person begin research on a particular unit simply by the number on a pair of shoulderboards? Reason I am asking is that I have a really nice, all original, nothing switched, field tailor made tunic and pants with numbered boards. It is obvious from the award loops that the Oberfeldwebel who wore this uniform had earned the special presentation gold grade of the close combat clasp and I want to try to narrow down who he might have been.
(3) Is there a list of Gold CCC receipients?
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Chuck

To (1): this is a very complex question, but basically an arabic number denotes a regiment or battalion. The color of their arm of service was used for EM and the lower two NCO grades, other NCO grades and officer candidates silver, and gold for commissioned officers. These numbers were not to be worn in forward areas, but the use of slip-over tabs on the shoulder strap led to frequent violations of this proscription.
To (2): yes, knowing the number would help identify the individual's unit and thus aid research.
To (3): the lists of recipients are at BA-MA Freiburg, but there is a book:

Dörr, Manfred. Die Träger der Nahkampfspange in Gold.

Any further elaboration on this subject will have to come from others who specialize in uniforms.

HTH,

--Larry

[vonStubben]

Thank you Larry for all your concise help. I appreciate it!

Regards,

Chuck

To (1): this is a very complex question, but basically an arabic number denotes a regiment or battalion. The color of their arm of service was used for EM and the lower two NCO grades, other NCO grades and officer candidates silver, and gold for commissioned officers. These numbers were not to be worn in forward areas, but the use of slip-over tabs on the shoulder strap led to frequent violations of this proscription.
To (2): yes, knowing the number would help identify the individual's unit and thus aid research.
To (3): the lists of recipients are at BA-MA Freiburg, but there is a book:

Dörr, Manfred. Die Träger der Nahkampfspange in Gold.

Any further elaboration on this subject will have to come from others who specialize in uniforms.

HTH,

--Larry

[tenoriodj]

I´d be glad to check Dörr for u if you need.

[Simon O.]

Just tell us the number and waffenfarbe and there's plenty of people here that could give you a shortlist. There were so few CCC in gold holders the list won't be long.
According to regulations he should also have qualified for the DKiG, though not all gold recipients got it.

Also worth adding that if the shoulder strap button is numbered it denotes his company within the unit.