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**Seigfried** · 06-02-2006, 05:02 AM

Originally posted by J. Hahn

I always have trouble reading the hand writing on tailor labels - below I've posted two pics, I hope someone can help me. I need to get the names right before doing any research.

The first one has a nice and clear writing....."Eivers"?

This could also be 'Eiuers' and 'Einers' - the bottom one I cannot tell. I had this exact problem also. I used photoshop to darken the writing, stains etc before writing out all the possible permutations and tried to put myself in the place of the writer (all very extreme I know!) - and studying each letter! I also punched each 'name' into google to see if any results came up. In the end I worked it out!
It was well worth the effort as I was able to ID the tunic owner and some of his history - sent a shiver down me to actually put a name behind the tunic.

**J. Hahn** · 06-03-2006, 11:41 AM

John, I know the feeling you mention when putting a name (and a person) behind a tunic - that's why I hardly buy any tunics that are not named

**J. Hahn** · 06-06-2006, 12:37 PM

No other inputs?

**Johnny R** · 06-06-2006, 09:38 PM

Tailor labels, sutterlin cursive

Here is web site to help:

http://www.suetterlinschrift.de/Englisch/Sutterlin.htm

Usually the first word is an abbreviation for a rank, StbsInt., Hapt . etc. but they also use abbreviated first names e.g., Jos. Alx. If the piping is intact it is usually easy to figure out the rank- Stabsveterinär , Assistenarzt, Rittmeister, Hauptman, etc. Knowing this can detect altered tunics too, I have found a lot of tunics where the rank does not match the waffenfarbe. Saved me some grief.

The name in the first tunic is Einers, I can't make out the second one clearly, the first word looks like it ends in a vowel so may be an abbreviation- if you have a better image it would help. Take it at a different angle. The first letter of the last name is "B" and the last two look like "kl". I think it is Brekl which is German/Czech last name.

Good luck!

**J. Hahn** · 06-07-2006, 02:12 AM

Thanks a lot

I'll try if I can get a better shot of the second one.

**frank savage** · 06-07-2006, 06:02 AM

hi there!
I agree with jhodgson about the rank abrevation on the second label. It should be 'hptm' for hauptmann. For read the complete name you have to show to us a better scan of the label, but jhodgson should be right with his traslation.
The 'sutterlin' script could be help you, even if I don't remember a tailor label written in that way, but I think was existed...
good luck for your name research.
cheers

**Johnny R** · 06-07-2006, 08:49 AM

Another example of a tailor tag

Here is a uniform with a tag where the name is first and rank is second and written out as a complete word. Nice tunic aside from the holes in the sleeve.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...MEWA%3AIT&rd=1

**J. Hahn** · 06-07-2006, 12:28 PM

The jacket is a LW Oberstleutn. but he could've had it made when he was a Hauptmann.
Here's another pic, I'm afraid that's the best I can do, the writing is rather faint.

**Gran Sasso** · 06-07-2006, 01:14 PM

I read it as "Hptm. (Hauptmann) Brakl".

**Johnny R** · 06-08-2006, 10:12 AM

Label

I agree with Brakl, as I said that is a Czech and German last name. If he went from Cpt. to Lt. Col he must have been a good officer and should be fairly easy to track down. The tag is a Hannover tailor, that could be his home town or more likley the closest town to where he was stationed when he had it made.

**Simon O.** · 06-08-2006, 11:46 AM

No Brakl is listed in the '44 LW rangliste though it only covers regular officers.

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