Brehmer flak badge-- right hinge & marks?

[inimicus]

sorry no obverse but can you tell 'goodness' from reverse? thanks for quick responses!

[Sebastien T]

Look a good brehmer fro this picture

Seb

[inimicus]

thanks a lot, Seb! is 'wide hinge' earlier than the narrow one, and thus maybe tombac vs. zinc?

[Sebastien T]

Sorry but I mistaken your picture. It look a good Juncker with a fake Brehmer stamp. The MM is wrong but the flak look a good unmarked Juncker. Brehmer don't have barrel hinge either tomback or zinc.

Seb

[inimicus]

aw, rats! thanks anyway, anyone else?

[Tony Bologna]

i guess it's fake.

[inimicus]

thanks lot tony - glad I didn't spring for it then...

[Jordan Wills]

Looks like a good J3-J4 flak with a fake Brehmer mark, a front pic would tell the tale.

Jordan

[Thomas Durante]

I am quite certain that is an original Juncker badge judging from just this reverse shot, but with a fake Brehmer mark added to it.

It would be good to see the obverse clear shot, and also a clear closeup of the maker mark, I am curious to see how good it is compared to an original Brehmer mark.

Tom

[inimicus]

thanks guys for the addl. input. will try to get him to send an obverse image and a macro of the mark. but now I'm curious:
- does the value differential 'tween an unmarked junker and a brehmer really justify paying tool and die makers to create fake dies for such embellishments?
- is this practice this become commonplace? (over years I've seen, tho rarely, laughable add-ons as have we all.)
- and anyway, how much value is lost off a junker by now cursed with a bogus mark?
happy christmas.

[Jelle M.]

thanks guys for the addl. input. will try to get him to send an obverse image and a macro of the mark. but now I'm curious:
- does the value differential 'tween an unmarked junker and a brehmer really justify paying tool and die makers to create fake dies for such embellishments?

Apparently not… because the badge is exposed here as a messed with example!

- is this practice this become commonplace? (over years I've seen, tho rarely, laughable add-ons as have we all.)

I'm afraid it is indeed a common practice. Back in the days many collectors prefered to collect badges with maker mark only. Hence many badges got pimped up. People were very suspicious about unmarked badges. Today the general knowledge is much better and everything is well documented. So i expect you will see less and less original badges with added, spurious maker marks.

- and anyway, how much value is lost off a junker by now cursed with a bogus mark?
happy christmas.

In my opinion, -30% of the market value of an unmessed with example.

[inimicus]

thanks 'stalker!