Pilot badge type Juncker, cupal. For opinions

[manu1972]

hello fellow, I show you these photos of a new piece that I just acquired. It is, according to the seller, a variant of the Juncker brand, although not marked in aluminum. It would be interesting to know in what time or year it could have been made or that it could even be from the time of the Condor legion.
I would like to know opinions about it.
Thanks to all.

Manuel

[manu1972]

See you.

Kind regards

[Alex Bolotnikov]

The photos aren't the best but it looks like a good alu J2 with repaired catch. The period is 39-41.

[Sebastien T]

Rivets are busted as well.

Seb

[manu1972]

Hi, Seb.
Burst, destroyed? I think he is seeing ghosts where there are none.
Is there anyone else who thinks that the rivets are, as Seb says, busted? It's an exaggeration on your part and I do not agree

[manu1972]

Thanks for your answers, even if one is an observation in my opinion absurd.
many regards

[Sebastien T]

Manuel,

Busted is a slang word which mean smashed, broken, tightened or hammered etc... Sorry if you didn't like it.

The rivets on your J2 alu have been tightened or rehammered somewhere in time and does not have the round flat top shape as expected. Here side by side for comparaison.

Seb

[manu1972]

Yes, of course, Sebas. You always have to be the one who spoils you one day with the opinions of a great expert, when the same could be done by the manufacturer and I do not see much importance. The important thing is that the piece is original and beautiful.
But there are always those who bitter day or night unfortunately. Thank you in particular to Alex for having instructed me.

[Sebastien T]

Yes, of course, Sebas. You always have to be the one who spoils you one day with the opinions of a great expert, when the same could be done by the manufacturer and I do not see much importance. The important thing is that the piece is original and beautiful.
But there are always those who bitter day or night unfortunately. Thank you in particular to Alex for having instructed me.

Take it easy Manu.... When you ask for opinion be ready for it or don't post anything. You asked and we replied.... Replaced catch, Rivets tightened, very worn with almost no details left, you like it like that fine with me. Yes fine original, made between 1938 and 1941 as Alex mentionned, Juncker firm did not make rivets like that. Here the condition of your badge and live with it. If you didn't liked the word busted its a thing but don't tell me that I spoiled a badge or the I am a bitter man, you are way off here and make a fool or yourself.

Seb

[Brian S]

Glad I didnt weigh in.

But I will.

Rivets are not factory. They were tightened most likely in the field. These were delicate badges and finding unharmed is rare.

And yes you make a fool of yourself attacking the person when you dislike the opinion.

[Larry Lipps]

Rather than be a prick, I'll just agree with everyone but Manu.

[Thomas Durante]

A nice rare original Juncker in Aluminum, but agree that the catch is replaced and the rivets have been tightened up.

Tom

[Tim Calvert]

Manu-are you able to post better pictures?
Here are some rivets you can compare yours to.

[Gary B]

Nice close up picture from Tim of rivets. As everyone has stated, Manu's pilot badge rivets have been re-tightened/hammered down (not at the factory) and the catch has been repaired as is often seen on Aluminum badges.

Gary B

[e-maus]

Hi Manu,
Do not get offended, well, you can only agree with the previous opinions
Jacek