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    #1

    Ground dug Pilot

    Not the whole badge but the wreath only. Was found in Volgograd area as far as I know. Looks like good Juncker.
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      Hi Alex,

      Nice find indeed, looks like a good J2 wreath. Notice how high the catch is soldered to the wreath, another classic sign of Juncker. No sign of the eagle anywhere?

      Tom
      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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        Hi Tom,

        No eagle unfortunately. I can't understand how it was possible to break it away - the badge is in great condition, even both catch and hinge are without rust.

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          Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
          Notice how high the catch is soldered to the wreath, another classic sign of Juncker.Tom
          Great observation, I was not aware of this.

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            Quite in good condition for beeing in ground for years...

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              hmm maybe a Russian got the eagle and popped it off and threw it somewhere in the distance, could be anywhere

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                Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                Notice how high the catch is soldered to the wreath, another classic sign of Juncker.
                But's it's not only Juncker's sign - IMME has the same feature)

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                  Originally posted by Alex Bolotnikov View Post
                  But's it's not only Juncker's sign - IMME has the same feature)
                  Yes, but IMME used Nickel Silver catches, not Brass like Juncker. And the rivets are textbook Juncker, very different from IMME too

                  Tom
                  If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                    Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                    Yes, but IMME used Nickel Silver catches, not Brass like Juncker. And the rivets are textbook Juncker, very different from IMME too

                    Tom
                    Not always! Here is IMME with Brass rivets and catch. While JMME badges are Nickel Silver, yes...
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                      Originally posted by Alex Bolotnikov View Post
                      Not always! Here is IMME with Brass rivets and catch. While JMME badges are Nickel Silver, yes...
                      Alex, that badge was produced by JUNCKER, not IMME. It may be marked for IMME, but it was made by Juncker.

                      Tom
                      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                        Hmm... So does it mean if IMME/JMME catch and rivets are Brass then the badge is made by Juncker?
                        Last edited by Alex Bolotnikov; 11-03-2017, 12:35 PM.

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                          Originally posted by Alex Bolotnikov View Post
                          Hmm... So does it mean if IMME/JMME catch and rivets are Brass then the badge in made by Juncker?
                          IMO, Yes 100%

                          Tom
                          If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                            IMO, Yes 100%

                            Tom
                            Interesting! But is it true for both IMME and JMME badges?

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                              Alex, any badge that was made with brass, dome-topped rivets like we see here, and brass catch is most certainly made by Juncker IMO. Whether it be IMME or JMME.

                              IMME was a separate company from Juncker, but in the early days I believe Juncker made products for IMME and IMME sold them. Later on, IMME started to produce their own badge using Juncker supplied parts. And then eventually IMME made their own awards completely.

                              If you have my Paratrooper badge book, I lay this out in the IMME chapter.

                              Tom
                              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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