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    #31
    Hahn Fritz 2/NJG-1 (Reich Def) Bf 110E-1 Werk # 4013 "G9 + GK" (lost 2/3/43) Destroyer or Night Fighter Operational Clasp, KIA with his R/O 3 February, 1943 in his E-1 near Tiel-Amerongen, Netherland, cause unknown. Crewman, Friedrich Foellmer. Jager Blatt & Bf 110 Loss List.

    He was killed in action (KIA) 3 feb 1943 when crashed in his E-1 in the netherland.

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      #32
      Night fighter goblet ! Really nice piece ! Get it

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        #33
        I think it's probably this man:

        HAHN, Fritz. (DOB: 24.11.19). (DKG). 01.04.42 promo to Oblt. 01.03.43 Oblt., awarded the
        Ehrenpokal. 29.04.43 awarded DKG, 12.(H)/Aufkl.Gr.13. 01.09.44 promo to Hptm.

        from: Luftwaffe Officer Career Summaries

        KR Thomas

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          #34
          Hmm

          Thanks for the replies.
          But inscription on pokal says 21th August 1942.
          Regards Johan

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            #35
            Sometimes the date specifications on these internet pages are not 100% correct researched or available!

            Here is a another side with the same Fritz Hahn as I think (Here the goblet is not mentioned):

            http://nl.ww2awards.com/person/29234

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              #36
              that must be the guy

              Thanks Thomas!
              Yes that must be the same Hahn.
              Much appreciated!

              Best regards

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                #37
                more info

                Hi!
                I want to show you some new info regarding Fritz.

                Below are two pages from different sites.
                Got the DKG same dates so it must be the same guy.
                Not sure how trustworthy the dates are though.. It says promoted to Hptm 1st of sep but on the other page it says date of death 11th feb same year..?
                More investigation needed. Are there any books out there telling more detailed and accurate info?

                Thanks!
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                  #38
                  Very nice set, the case worth as much as the goblet, I would say 7000€ + for the set.

                  Originally posted by axion9 View Post
                  Hi!
                  I have been offered this pokal.
                  Name of recipent not given yet but but he was DK winner oberleutnant (aufklärer).
                  Any opinions regarding orginality and price?

                  Thanks!
                  Regards Johan

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                    #39
                    Sorry but wrong Fritz Hahn

                    Sorry to disappoint you but this Fritz Hahn isn't your guy.

                    From the date on the EP - your Hahn is listed in the Ehrenliste for 31 Aug 1942 as - Oberleutnant Fritz Hahn Bordfunker in eine Kampfgeschwader.

                    (I was going to attach copy of the 31 Aug 42 Ehrenliste here but haven't figured out how to include attachments)

                    At that stage of the war, the Ehrenliste were a list of awards that were made the week or two before the Ehrenliste publishing date (by 1944 the publishing of the lists had became less regular thus several awards listed were awarded months earlier) Anyway, the date on the EP is in line with others that I have found for that same Ehrenliste such as:

                    Ofw Ernst Rohde 20 Aug 42
                    Fw Fritz Neumuller 22 aug 42
                    Ogfr Artur Schilz 20 Aug 42
                    Ltn Walter Zellot 24 Aug 42

                    Therefore your guy is a Bomber Bordfunker not a Reconnaissance Beobachter and does not appear in the DKG list like the other Fritz Hahn. (The reconnaissance Fritz Hahn would have got his EP awarded around 22 Feb 43 to be listed in the Ehrenliste for 1 Mar 43)

                    Unfortunately I haven't found a Hahn that matches in the bomber forces yet.


                    Regards,

                    Craig...

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                      #40
                      Thanks

                      Good work Craig. Thank you!
                      Yes I have done some research myself and found out that it was the wrong Fritz.
                      As you said my EP is for a bordfunker in kampgeschwader.
                      I have informed the responsible ones for the webpage.
                      Is it possible to find out more you think? Units etc?

                      Cheers!
                      K-J
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                        #41
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                          #42
                          From this book........

                          ...............
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                          RonR

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