Pilot badge with question

[skalphunter]

Got an estate from a vets son.
Here i want to show you the Flugzeugführerabzeichen. On the back there are 3 numbers bashed in 2 8 5. Never seen this before.
Qualified opinions are welcome.
Brief description of the other stuff:
Medal what seems to be the Ehrenmedaille of the Luftkriegsschule - 3 Werder a. H. Engraved his name Leutenant.... 3.4.1940- 27.5.1942. On the back faks signature of the Commander. The IC 1st class is L/13 on screwback. IC 2nd class without ring. The little one is romanian.
skalp

[skalphunter]

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[Ludwig]

Not original!

[skalphunter]

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[skalphunter]

The rivets seem to be worked over. For me the wreath and pin system have some potential. skalp

[Nick Carraway]

Total fake - sorry

[Giel VW]

Total fake - sorry

Actually not, the wreath of the pilot is original. The other items also looks good, so I can only imagine the vet lost his original eagle or regretted the denazification of it.

[Mike Kenny]

That's what I was thinking too - the wreath and hardware look like they might be OK - Juncker, maybe JMME?.

Regards
Mike

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

The wreath is an original, textbook J3 wreath, just the eagle is replaced with a postwar Souval one.

Tom

[skalphunter]

Thanks guys that i was thinking !

skalp

To Ludwig and Nick Carraway:

I asked for qualified opinions !

[Thomas Durante]

Everyone makes mistakes skalp, at least they offered their opinion for you.

Tom

[Ludwig]

Thanks guys that i was thinking !

skalp

To Ludwig and Nick Carraway:

I asked for qualified opinions !

Hast Du auch bekommen!

[skalphunter]

Everyone makes mistakes skalp, at least they offered their opinion for you.

Tom

I agree completely with you Tom. But a remark like " total fake- sorry " makes me a little edgy. If that person would have taken his time and looked at the pics then this comment would not have been made. Or aviously he has no idea about the subject and that is the reason why i ask for qualified opinions. There are to many post collectors around here........
skalp

[Ludwig]

Or you can do some research by checking this forum.
There are oceans of badges, medals etc. here to compare with.
You know, not all collectors are interested in writing hole stories about a badge.
I appreciate those guys who do, but I don´t expect them to.
Even less demand them to.
That eagle is so very obvious bad, that even if the wreath and hardware are OK, it doesn´t help, as it´s a quite common badge. Hence the short comment.
BUT, of course, you have all rights to be edgy. In fact you have all the right to be anything you want here. Well, almost anything!
Ich wünsche Dir eine schöne Wochenende, Kollege!

[skalphunter]

Thank you so much Ludwig for allowing me to ask and do things what i please (almost everything of course) in this forum. I apologize for not only checking the forum for posts but asking for opinions. Especially for such a common piece of junk what is of course a waist of time to everybody. Glad for everybody here that there are guys like you. What a gain. And i do not think we are colleagues. But anyhow i also wish you a nice weekend.
skalp