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    #31
    Originally posted by Gabgunner View Post
    Is there a way that I could be sure a 100% I don't know like carbon 14 haha
    Unfortunately no such test as carbon 14 in this field I'm afraid (and even carbon 14 isnt always reliable in all instances) but you did get honest feedback from some of the most experienced/knowledgeable people on this forum in this field IMO which should count for something...It is of course your prerogative to ignore this feedback should you feel strongly enough your badge is good or you only intend to keep it in your collection but I'm sure something akin to a "carbon 14 test" will certainly occur as soon as you try to move it

    JC

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      #32
      Originally posted by Jean-Claude View Post
      Unfortunately no such test as carbon 14 in this field I'm afraid (and even carbon 14 isnt always reliable in all instances) but you did get honest feedback from some of the most experienced/knowledgeable people on this forum in this field IMO which should count for something...It is of course your prerogative to ignore this feedback should you feel strongly enough your badge is good or you only intend to keep it in your collection but I'm sure something akin to a "carbon 14 test" will certainly occur as soon as you try to move it

      JC
      Im not ignoring them 2 people told me it was real vs 3 so it s kind of hard to find out the truth !

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        #33
        http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/war_...nner_badge.htm

        And here it says that a roag suppose to be between 30 to 40 g

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          #34
          Originally posted by Gabgunner View Post
          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/war_...nner_badge.htm

          And here it says that a roag suppose to be between 30 to 40 g
          It's an average weight for different makers. But Juncker tombak roags have to weigh about 37 g.

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            #35
            Your photos give it a soft focus and soft appearance. I wonder what you are using to weigh it and if your scale is dependable? But regardless, bottom line value, even if real, it is highly messed with and value suffers. I think there is still a chance it is genuine but impossible to tell from these photos. Hinge looks good, later Juncker like this the clasp should be tombac and may well be but your photos don't show it. Send it to someone close by you for an opinion.

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              #36
              New pic still doesn't sure

              Originally posted by Gabgunner View Post
              Hi seb, can you tell me what's a cast j3 IMO ?
              [IMG]cvws.icloud-content.com/B/AQ_dQmdILkOWxalffEGKoS1n39S2AUOmM9-lsenM1aO2Xl9PT1df9yeS/20180116_231003.jpg?o=ApcQhf6wMPiAl7On5yt5bSgvWFX1 LO8A9Am9FC0X_RwZ&v=1&x=3&a=BWzoPgkHUewhA1aPQA&e=15 16163867&k=kzlvgJTP982Q6bxyQ4ycWQ&fl=&r=a745e0e6-5755-453c-b972-78bf4cb29cea-1&ckc=com.apple.clouddocs&ckz=com.apple.CloudDocs& p=48&s=ls_4bxAQn8X-3OB3LYZrnpkSXb0&cd=i[/IMG]
              [IMG]cvws.icloud-content.com/B/AW9msrIynh3LHw5a6d2Jb6NJqPD2AYyDPnB81h-DihjqlUJ9nnupAcBp/20180115_021101+2.jpg?o=AsOuwkZ33G_PJWSiI8JiYkXx1b d4-p1dklC67X_d1sV5&v=1&x=3&a=Bb5FLRqFNCQRA1iPQA&e=151 6163952&k=9Jvgg3MK4wsQRtuzTPoN0w&fl=&r=d100d6c7-2f24-4225-85a8-04e75275ddc2-1&ckc=com.apple.clouddocs&ckz=com.apple.CloudDocs& p=48&s=B6_TN12XF9RvF843ETJaTZdJ2_0&cd=i[/IMG]

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                #37
                New pic still doesn't sure

                Originally posted by Gabgunner View Post
                Hi seb, can you tell me what's a cast j3 IMO ?
                [IMG]https://ibb.co/eM44XR
                https://ibb.co/imEGe6
                https://ibb.co/jAetRm
                https://ibb.co/c7oWCR
                https://ibb.co/dYEhK6
                https://ibb.co/nKm7mm
                https://ibb.co/e6inmm[/IMG]

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                  #38
                  Still bad even with the new pictures

                  Seb
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