S&L Pilot

[Nordmark]

Hi guys,



I was lucky and found a very interesting and rare badge a few days back. Though I´m pretty sure this thread won´t add anything new to these controversial (to say the least) most likely S&L badges, some might find it interesting anyway.

When I got this piece, I already noticed the eagle was a bit loose, well When I got home, the eagle was completely of the wreath.

The eagle is CupAl, the wreath is zink. So here are a few pictures in artificial light.


Regards,


Daniel

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[Sebastien T]

Hi,

Interesting Pilot badge but its S&L post war. The hardware, the rivets and the wreath are 57er style. The hardware is identical to 57er retired, glider etc....
Here a S&L without the swas and another not damage I have in file with the swas and they are almost identical.

I wouldn't mind one in my collection is the price is cheap, i like it.

Seb

[Nordmark]

Interesting Pilot badge but its S&L post war. The hardware, the rivets and the wreath are 57er style.

I was not trying to pitch these as wartime originals. See:

Though I´m pretty sure this thread won´t add anything new to these controversial (to say the least) most likely S&L badges, some might find it interesting anyway.

Interesting Pilot badge but its S&L post war. The hardware, the rivets and the wreath are 57er style.

To simple for my taste. There are quite a few unanswered questions regarding these.

For me these pieces remain somewhat fascinating...


Regards,


Daniel

[Sebastien T]

Hardware comparaison

[Sebastien T]

For me these pieces remain somewhat fascinating..

No I know Daniel just showing their close relation. That one is fascinating and honeslty i like it very much they must be not common cause I saw only 2 so far.

Seb

[rfleming32]

Were period examples constructed like this as well with regard to the rivits? The rivet is soldered on as in this example? Maybe with a back plate? Never seen a period example de-constructed. Assume there would be marks for where to attach the rivits or was each badge fitted individually?

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Daniel,

Interesting S&L Pilot Badge, its not often we get to see these semi-hollow eagles. Reminds me of the Type "C" S&L Para badges, which were also made from Cupal. I have been told these date to the 1970s, but I don't know if that is confirmed.

Its cool to see the eagle off the wreath so we can see exactly how the rivets were attached. Thanks for showing this interesting example.

Tom

[Thomas Durante]

Were period examples constructed like this as well with regard to the rivits? The rivet is soldered on as in this example?

Hi Richard,

Original, wartime examples (zinc eagles) didn't have backplates for the rivets. Instead, a shallow hole was drilled into the back of the eagle and the rivet soldered inside of it. Here is a good picture of one where the hole was drilled in the wrong place, and then re-drilled in the correct spot.

With these semi-hollow cupal eagles, I guess there wasn't enough depth in the eagle to drill a hole for the rivet, so instead they used the plate.

Tom

[rfleming32]

That is what I was thinking but never saw an example. Thanks Thomas.