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    Hello again, I have been in touch with a friend of mine and have done a bit more research into this one, If you look at the extra images I am posting one is from the Niemann book and shows an fll pilots badge with the same hinge as the posted badge, and also an infantry assault badge by fll from Sacha Webers book which also has the same hinge as well.

    Further to this is a picture of an fll panzer assault badge with again the same hinge set up and this time the 'c' shaped catch as on the pilot badge.
    I'm inclined to agree with Karsten on the catch as fll seem to have utilised anything that came to hand for hardware on late war badges?

    Hi Tom, I have looked into the possibility of the re soldering aspect and Upon close inspection of my badge it appears that what you have pointed out as old solder it is more like a stain and is not sitting proud of the surface of the badge as old solder would, even if it had been ground down. When a solder is to be used then the surface has to be treated with a cleaning agent called flux, this then should be cleaned off and the surface is then ready to be soldered, I belive that this is just poor working practices and what we are seeing is a flux stain.
    If you look at the scans I have provided you can clearly see dark patches as an outer ring from the solder particularly on the pilot badge, this is also probably flux staining which wasn't removed prior to soldering.

    I'm not trying to defend my badge here but trying to look at all the facts available, one other thing which has also been niggling me is that if this badge has had its original hardware removed, the old solder ground away then new hardware re- soldered then this has introduced a lot of heat and re tooling to the badge which would logicaly imply that the finish would have been damaged at these areas, and as can be seen the finish is untouched especially to the front?

    I would appreciate any further opinions to this discussion
    Thanks for looking,
    T
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        #18
        Here is a straight hinge plate

        KR

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          #19
          So should I be adding FLL variant 12,261 to my data base?
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            #20
            Originally posted by Larry Lipps View Post
            So should I be adding FLL variant 12,261 to my data base?

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              #21
              Hi Dave,

              If you notice all the hinges you show, they are oval in shape (curved top and bottom). That is different than your hinge, which is rectangular in shape with straight top and bottom. Furthermore, FLL pins have a distinct tool mark at the top of the pin, which doesn't appear to be on your example.

              I am still of the opinion that the hinge, pin and catch are repaired.

              Tom
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              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                #22
                Originally posted by Larry Lipps View Post
                So should I be adding FLL variant 12,261 to my data base?
                indeed they must hold the record.

                KR

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                  #23
                  k

                  Hello all, thanks for the interesting discussion about fll badges, it certainly is a steep learning curve when getting down to the 'brass tacks' about individual makers' hardware.
                  Regards,
                  T

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