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    #16
    Super pic´s Tim.
    I did´nt want to damm the badge straight away, as I said, the nice brassy hinge looks good, although saying this I have seen some pretty good Luftwaffe Flak badges as copies displaying a very similar hinge. I definatley don´t like the fact that the hinge is 3mm though.
    And as I said again in another thread, the rings around the rivets come from a guy hitting them with a punch, and some hit harder and some softer, just like the maker mark stamps theres always going to be a bit of differance,but look at the 2 examples shown,were the rivets have a ring the rivet head is also flattened, a good sign that he hit it to hard, on Richards badge they don´t look like this at all. Only thing is these new laser copies all show these rings and the vast majority of JMME/Junker badges have very clean round domed rivets, or were not then a flat head.Rich I think we need exact measurments and the weight although the more I look at the back the more I don´t like it.

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      #17
      Close up of claws
      Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
      Decorations of Germany

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        #18
        I've been examining it in detail and at first could see no evidence of casting, but when I looked at my BSW and 1st pattern Junckers and then looked back at the JMME, on the wreath to the left of the ribboned bottom appears to be a casting flaw (see pic in above post), and I can see it on the inside edge of the wreath, were it hasn't been finished so well.

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        Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
        Decorations of Germany

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          #19
          I'm very convinced now it's B-A-D...

          Here's the measurements:

          wreath height 53mm
          wreath width 41.4
          wing tip to tip 65.3
          width of swaz 11.3


          I'll check for further posts in the morning but I'll be packaging it for postage.

          Once again, thanks to all

          Rich
          Interested in hand-stitched EM/NCO LW insignia and cuff-titles
          Decorations of Germany

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            #20
            After seeing the close ups of the claws and swas I've to admitt it's not the real Jmme deal.

            Jos.

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              #21
              JMME Pilot badge

              Hallo !
              Her is pics of my JMME Pilotbadge , get it from Detlev yesterday .
              http://groups.msn.com/Tyske2WWKrigsm...to&PhotoID=487
              Click next ( neste ) to se back of the badge .
              Wreath height : 53 mm
              Wreath width : 42 mm
              Width Swaz : 12 mm
              Wing tip to tip : 64.9 mm ( pin hold 90 deg. against measurement)
              Weight : 43 - 44 gr.

              Lillegutt
              Last edited by Jan Arne S; 06-25-2002, 05:36 AM.

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                #22
                IMO it's a very good copy,I don't like the "rounded" swas and bad detailed claws after a better look.
                Fakers are able to make this quality,I've seen badges like this before.
                Some close-ups of my JMME.

                Jos.
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                  #23
                  another.
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                    #24
                    Hi all,

                    Lillegutt asked me to measure up my badge, and the results are:

                    wreath height: 52.7mm
                    wreath width: 41.8mm
                    swaz width: 12mm
                    wingtip to wingtip: 64.6mm
                    weight: 43.2grms.

                    looks like ours fit togeather Lillegutt.

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                      #25
                      JMME Pilot badge 2

                      Hallo all !
                      Are not able to make good large pics of detail of my badge , but the badge has the same "defect" on higher right arm of Swaz. that the badge from Wes. pics , it also have good detalj on the claws but it is difficult to se at my pics. have use both 6x and 10x and 12x magnifier .
                      http://groups.msn.com/Tyske2WWKrigsm...to&PhotoID=488
                      Click next ( Neste ) to se a larger one .

                      Lillegutt
                      Last edited by Jan Arne S; 06-26-2002, 01:39 AM.

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