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    Flight clasp Zerstörer

    Here´s a clasp, that doesn´t belong to me. I have an opinion, but want to hear other´s, too.
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    Reverse
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      #3
      Maker´s mark.
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        #4
        Hello ludwig,

        Marker mark is not good
        Last edited by Dama; 02-01-2011, 12:46 PM.
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          #5
          Originally posted by Dama View Post
          Hello ludwig,

          Marker mark is not good

          Hello Sebastien,

          as I'm not familiar with clasps, can you give me some pointers on this one?

          Thanks

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            #6
            I agree with Sebastien on the maker mark.

            Regards,
            Frank

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              #7
              Hi Ludwig the maker mark is to clear IMO i can be wrong but lets hear some more inputs on this one

              Best

              Andy

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                #8
                HI Ludwig,

                Maker mark is 'real' questionable, to say the least. I wonder what Acetone would do to the gilting?

                Mark
                "You can check out any time you like ..... But you can never leave....."

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                  #9
                  Hi Ludwig,

                  Although the base metal and details of this clasp don't look too bad, I think there are a lot of questions about this one.

                  Firstly the maker mark is not the correct, Osang maker mark as Sebastian has correctly pointed out. I completely agree with him. I also don't like the reverse hardware (hinge and catch) and the finish looks cheap and basic. I also don't like the cutouts, very ameuturish compared to typical Osang cutouts, which are always nice and precise and neatly made. We know very well what late war, Osang fighter clasps look like and there are significant differences to this clasp, so it is one I wouldn't want to add to the collection.

                  Tom
                  If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                    #10
                    Here is a Osang maker mark from a dayfighter clasp that i have before and that one is 100% ok


                    Andy
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                      #11
                      Very nice Andy, textbook Osang fighter

                      Tom
                      If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                        #12
                        Here's good Osang marker mark.
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                        Last edited by Dama; 02-01-2011, 02:50 PM.
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                        Volume I & Volume II


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                          #13
                          Perhaps that we only need some more better close up pics on the maker markt
                          Lets see

                          Andy

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                            #14
                            The posted clasp is a good one. I have clasps with this same font
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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Gene View Post
                              The posted clasp is a good one. I have clasps with this same font
                              Hi Gene,

                              What is your explanation on why Osang used a different font for their maker mark, and why this maker mark is ONLY found on QUESTIONABLE badges and outright fakes?

                              We know that Osang used their "textbook" maker mark until the end of the war because we have many late war, zink badges with this correct maker mark. Also their reverse hardware was very consistent until the end of the war. So where do these "round O" marked clasps fit in to the timeline? Not only are these clasps different with the maker mark, but the hinge, catch, rivet and cutouts are also different. So this isn't just a simple matter of using a different style of maker stamp. EVERYTHING is different on these clasp, so how can you explain it.

                              Tom
                              Last edited by Thomas Durante; 02-01-2011, 06:02 PM.
                              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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