Jmme Para Opinions Please

[Joseph D'Errico]

Hello Gentlemen,


Any thoughts on this JMME Para ?

Best,
JD

[Joseph D'Errico]

Closer look

JD

[Joseph D'Errico]

The Reverse, notice the tip of the tail.

JD

[Yuri D.]

Ive posted myTombak original. Let's compare the features to see if yours is a zinc version.

[Yuri D.]

Reverse:

[Yuri D.]

I would really like to see a closeup of the MM on your badge Joe. Comparing zinc and Tombak is like comparing apples to oranges. The dies for the eagle are definitely different, but the obverse of the wreath looks quite similar, not the shortened leaves on the top left wreath section.

[Joseph D'Errico]

Hello Yuri,


My example is zinc with a very thin weath, almost as thin as a Juncker Pre-1939 1st pattern Pilot badge. The mm on mine is week, but looks like what I would expect from JMME, But, I do have concerns on the "M"s

Here is a pic of the MM , the strike is weak , but their.

Here are some specs;

Weight : 23 grams

Height; top to bottom; 42.mm

Width; right to left; 52.0 mm

Best,
JD

[Joseph D'Errico]

No Comments ?

I have discussesd this piece with another forum member known for his interests in Para badges, we shared most of the same thoughts.

First off ,this example I purchased came cased; no issues their with the originality of the case, BUT, that is neithier here nor their. The top lid of the case has a good impression of the badge, that looks like it was original to the piece, but that is just speculation at this point as the case to me , not to sound cotradictiong is an earlier style case.

Some furthur thoughts on the piece itself;

The maker mark is of concern to me, not that it is weak in strike, but the letter "M" typically in the center "V" is even with the base of the vertical strokes to each side.

To confuse things a bit, the "O" is cocked as it should be as well as the other letters being correct.

The badge under a 50x does not show any signs of casting. The piece is very well made and shows great detail as well as the type of wear that I would expect to see from a piece being naturaly worn.

The claws clutching the Swaz, can anyone care to share some thoughts or pics. from archive photos or of anexample that they own.

Best,
JD

[stogieman]

Look at the swaz.....

... from the back on your badge Joe. Very odd looking with such rough edges?? I understand what you're saying about the maker mark. My concern would be such a poor finishing to components (even zinc/late war). Does anybody else have a zincer with such rough edges?? Interesting!

[John T]

I have some concern with the "hit" marks on the back of the wreath....are those normal wear....

[Steven Flanigan]

This type of badge appears to have already been discussed at http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ight=JMME+Sohn

[Joseph D'Errico]

Thank you all for the responses;

Just read the thread link posted by Steve, inconclusive and died out with Jay's posting of Detlevs weekly re-pop.



But , the piece posted by Detlev is comparig zinc to buntmetal, so is the point that the zinc pices did not exist ?

I could not find the link in the Fallschirmjaeger Forum, where the badge was discussed. Can anyone help on that?

Also what is needed is some that are well versed in late war zinc pieces, I do not do much with late war zinc and as Jos stated in the other thread it is really a different world.

Best,
JD

[marc b]

Hello Gentlemen,
The wreath = buntmetal, the eagle = aluminium.
Regards,
Marc

[marc b]

Joe,
The parabadge is a part of a set which I bought some time ago.
This set was bought from the relatives of Terfort who was a Fallschirmjäger at Kreta.
But....I know.... don't buy a story, buy a good item.
I just thought you should know the whole story.
Here's the rest of the set.


Regards,
Marc

[Joseph D'Errico]

Hi Marc,


Thank you for the information. I really did not think the wreath was buntmedal . that makes more sense to me, I wonder if I would dare say that this is a rare piece ?


I was really hoping for some more input. As I said, the other thread was less than convincing, not really much their. I like the piece and see nothing to suggest that the piece is not original. Some good points brought up, but it appears that the other members are on the fence about it as well. I was up late reserching everything I have and am waiting on some calls. I will post my research findings as thins evolve.

In the mean time if anyone can share some informatio,please do.

Most appriciated ,

Best,
JD