Round Wreath Pilot Badges - New Evidence

[Sebastien T]

Hello Guys,

Bump this thread today as something interesting just popped on another forum. This little picture have been posted which is from apparently a very late war catalogue from Juncker showing a round wreath badge with price. Sorry this is the only picture posted and size is very very small on purpose as the owner don't want to show more or say more than said below???

Here is the description from the owner:

"Is pictured in a late war brochure of a C.E. Juncker. Pic of the front, price and general description along with the item number."

The owner don' want to show or discussed anything as some material have been stealed from him and as you guys may imaging he light up a fire on this forum with good reasons. BUT, nothing is into the LVBl . It should be in one of them if official. Unless it was founded after February 1945 (last issues). But by then Juncker didn’t print catalogs!

So original or there is a chance that this is a hoax or a fake forgery? Anyone saw something like this before?

Thanks

Seb

[Leroy]

As I mentioned in response to that post on another forum, I have never seen a catalog or brochure dated after 1941. If it exists, it would be indeed interesting to see.

[Sebastien T]

As I mentioned in response to that post on another forum, I have never seen a catalog or brochure dated after 1941. If it exists, it would be indeed interesting to see.

Exactely and the rounder if they were made was way after that...

[Nick Carraway]

The other facts aside it just doesn’t look like a catalogue image. This looks like a photo was taken and turned into this.

[Jos L C]

Does it mean that another batch will hit the market soon..



Jos.

[Norm F]

Hm, that's one of the least useful photos I've ever seen posted.

One of three scenarios:

1) He's planning to publish sometime in the future and wants to retain the rights. (legitimate)
2) He's not ever planning to publish and is needlessly paranoid, in which case he shouldn't have posted in the first place.
3) He's bullsh*tting.

In any case, as it is, it's of no use to the collecting community. Hopefully he'll come around with something more definitive.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Jos L C]

This shady, secret acting always has a meaning, otherwise you'd scream out that you'd found the thruth, real evidence..

This acting is quite annoying, because all eyes are focussed on such guy and nothing is coming, besides some bull..

If you've evidence you show a clear pic of a round wreath on a flight tunic or something similar, the catalogue and not a pic smaller than a pin head to make us all exited, pissing our pants and raving mad...
.. and if you want it to keep for your self, great, but don't bother the rest..
The guy in the big car behind the dark wind shields, I've got something you people want type of person..
No pimps nor drug dealers allowed here !



Clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right ..


I've got a even smaller picture of a plane surrounded with flight crew and one might've the round wreath, but it's 3 micron size, hard to see..



Jos.

[Jos L C]

Till now, this badge is like the balloon, see going etc badge, fantasy sofar, regardless the prices paid and theories..
If there's any evidence, please continue.. WITH LARGE PICS ETC., PLEASE..!


Jos.

[August von Mackensen]

I have owned this one here for a while


http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=909585


Matt

[Gary B]

Seb,

A very interesting posting. Too bad the pictures are so small and that the original poster is not willing to share more images or information on the catalog. As such it is a pretty worthless post. If an original catalog, it will be quite a find.

Did you picture a round pilot badge in your upcoming book?

Gary B

[Dietrich Maerz]

..
1) He's planning to publish sometime in the future and wants to retain the rights. (legitimate)

He is for sure not planning to publish anything and he has no rights whatsoever on such material. This is his main contention, resulting out of a complete ignorance of the copyright laws. He could, however, watermark in a way so that it is not useable for others. That he is showing his "findings" in the way he does tells me that he has nothing to show, because there is nothing to see.

2) He's not ever planning to publish and is needlessly paranoid, in which case he shouldn't have posted in the first place.
3) He's bullsh*tting.

Norm, that is right, he is a paranoid bullsh*tter, craving for attention.

Even his boss at the forum is begging him to show more. I am astonished about the patience of the great leader, he has exterminated a lot more people for far less!
At any rate, the social behavior of that individual confirms the expulsion from WAF years ago.

[kefru177]

Without context this "find" is absolutely worthless.

The guy who originally posted the image is very paranoid, lol this is the image data:

"rsz_1rsz_donotsteal-1"

I really don't know who is chap is who posted this, it's not Craig Gottleib is it by any chance?

I suspect a steamer trunk load will shortly be arriving for sale

[Sebastien T]

Hey guys,

I didn't put that thread up to have personal insult of attacks. I just wanted to see if anyone saw anything like this before. It seem not. Too bad, would be fun to have more but it is what it is. MAybe the futur will tell us more, who knows what discovery can be made.

Seb

[kefru177]

Hey guys,

I didn't put that thread up to have personal insult of attacks. I just wanted to see if anyone saw anything like this before. It seem not. Too bad, would be fun to have more but it is what it is. MAybe the futur will tell us more, who knows what discovery can be made.

Seb

I completely understand but as the author’s evidence is so problematical, their motives for posting it is the only logical discussion.

The evidence is less than self authenticating at this stage

[Thomas Durante]

An interesting and tantilizing post, but as the others have said the pictures are just too small and blurry to tell much of anything. The original poster should be well-credited for this discovery, but there is no reason why he can't watermark it with his name in several places and still be able to reveal the context of the catalog. For all we can tell at this point, it simply looks like it could be a photoshopped hoax.

After I started this thread a few years ago, I was contact by two separate collectors, one saying there was photographic evidence of a round wreath pilot badge in wear, but unfortunately that never materialized. The other collector said there was some documentation evidence that Juncker produced these. I wonder if this alledged catalog is that evidence he mentioned.

Why it all has to be secret is beyond me. Properly watermark it and it should be a problem at all.

Tom