Luft Radio/Airgunner...!?

[Jos L C]

For those who like something new...look at this one..

http://daggers.infopop.net/2/OpenTop...3&m=7403053577

Nice badge for discussion IMO.., I've seen RK clasps ,but this is my first flightbadge..

Any thoughts..?

Jos.

[IVAN]

I don't like it.

[Frank Heukemes]

Can´t see the friggin´ pics on that forum, can anyone please "steal" them and post here?

[J Temple-West]

Just signed up to the forum to acquire these, I hope that they don't mind...

In the interest of open debate and the betterment of the hobby, of course..

I will, of course, remove these pix if there are any objections..

For my part...

[J Temple-West]

2..

[J Temple-West]

3...

[Joseph D'Errico]

Jay,

Our own covert operative

This is a first for me and i am with Ivan

I really do not like the hardware as well as the mm and the swaz and eagle.

Also was unaware of seeing an RK marked LW Qualification piece.

Best,
JD

[Frank Heukemes]

One thing is quite remarkable:

Try to ignore the hinge/pin/catch and the maker´s mark for a second.

-this items has an eagle and wreath design very different from what we know from the known maker´s of these awards.

-however it shares the exact same eagle and wreath design that can only be found on unmarked badges, sometimes these are using THREE rivets to hold the eagle.

-so far, these very specific badges I am talking about were strange, but looked very convincing and I still think they are original. I post some examples below.

This should make us at least remember this badge in case more turns up even if it looks very awkward at the moment.

First badge with same design (focus on head, claws and leaves) from Trevor Elliot sold on the e-stand. (One that I wanted and did not get):

[Frank Heukemes]

reverse

[Frank Heukemes]

Next badge of that very same design, pic acquired from Jos, but it looks like an older Detlev Niemann offering:

[Frank Heukemes]

Last one in my files of that very same design, pic acquired from Francois Saez, he scanned it from some magazine.

[Frank Heukemes]

also a three rivet one.

[Frank Heukemes]

Also at least interesting and for the record: I just checked and none of the numerous fakes (with or without lightning bolts) I have on file ever used that design (so far and to the best of my knowledge).

[Tim B.]

Very Interesting

Like Joe, this is a new one on me, but if comparing hinge, pin and catches, I must say that these appear to be very similar to known R.K. ground combat badges by this maker IMO. Rivets--?
Tim

[Jos L C]

I'm with Frank..the design is there..
Never saw a badge like this one ,but I don't dislike the eagle..I like the raised mm ...and as Tim pointed out , RK used this hinge and catch...

I don't know what to think.... I'm tempting to say I like it... ,but I'm cautious the same moment..
I don't see it as a obvious fake at the moment..

Jos.