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    #16
    Originally posted by Don Doering View Post
    Two great discoveries tonight. A girl with a badge and Marc.


    Marc's return is a victory for common sense and decency.

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      #17
      Wilkommen Marcus

      Ditto that Robin!

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        #18
        Originally posted by fdodge View Post
        The girl with the badge is hot
        Marc isn't
        REALLY!!! I think they are all quite......breathtaking

        WELCOME BACK MARCEY POOH!

        Chris

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          #19
          I think they are all quite......breathtaking
          I worry about you Chris.....

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            #20
            Very interesting photo...I would say that its a luft flak with the eagle broken off since they are 2 pieces. I could definately see women being awarded a flak since they did help out quite a bit...remember the little BDM girl in Der Untergang.

            Regards,
            Chris G.

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              #21
              Originally posted by Christopher G. View Post
              REALLY!!! I think they are all quite......breathtaking

              WELCOME BACK MARCEY POOH!

              Chris
              Yes, especially the one bottom right, anyone see the movie "Mask"...

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                #22
                Not too surprising, really.

                The Flak Badge went to crews who scored a certain number of points, as we all know.............

                Women were in the crews later in the war..........................

                So..........................

                QED.

                There was nothing in the regulations that said that a war badge couldn't be awarded to a female.

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                  #23
                  I blew the photo up and it is definitely a Luft flak.

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                    #24
                    Originally posted by fdodge View Post
                    I blew the photo up.............
                    Vandal !!!!

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                      #25
                      I will post closeups tomorrow - it is a Luftwaffe flak. I doubt from these guys as the other photos in the group show no badges or loops on their uniforms.

                      As for women, the war badges were fir combatants. Women were not. Except in the Flak. And the regs clearly allowed them to be awarded the badge. By 45 you only needed to PARTICIPATE in 5 air defenses. I am sure most met that.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Marc Garlasco View Post
                        As for women, the war badges were for combatants. Women were not. Except in the Flak. And the regs clearly allowed them to be awarded the badge. By 45 you only needed to PARTICIPATE in 5 air defenses. I am sure most met that.

                        Korrekt!

                        But women were also 'combatants' insofar as they served as front-line medical staff, transport pilots, etc. etc., winning the EK, Wound Badge, etc. etc.

                        Nurses were technically non-coms............. but they saw more real front-line blood-and-guts action than the Flak dollies, IMHO !!

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                          #27
                          Excellent to hear from you again, MarcHopefully things are going well and you're back to stay. Very interesting photo for sure.

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                            #28
                            Welcome back Marc. Glad to see you back in the trenches

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                              #29
                              IMHO these females are forgeign auxilliaries...somebody had a broken badge that he did not need and gave it to the girl to wear. I am not saying that she was not authorized to wear it based on what FLAK88 has said,

                              Best,

                              J

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                                #30
                                Robin,
                                the ek was not a war badge nor was the pilot or other qualification badges. Huge difference between valour like ek for being under fire at a hospital and a war badge. Come on man these are apples and oranges!

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