Unqualified Gunner Badge Comments?

[Lorenzo Brown]

Just to confuse things a little more......here is an unmarked GWL pilot badge with the same rivets.

[Lorenzo Brown]

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[stogieman]

Hmmmmmmmm.....

..... and where is my cousin??? François, S'Il vous-Plaiz? Quelles sont vos pensées? Bon? Mauvais? Merci cousin!
I do not own this badge, but right now, I'm starting to wish I did based on what I have seen and heard so far.

[Joseph D'Errico]

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[Joseph D'Errico]

Try this again, here is another Gunner that I sold for comparison.

Best,
JD

[Joseph D'Errico]

Another angle

[Joseph D'Errico]

For Frank;

A clear shot of the maker mark.

JD

[ERIC S.]

Hi Guys,
Doesn't anyone here find that the swas not being silvered is a bit awkward? On the few original Assmann and Deumer UAGs' I've seen or had the privelidge to examine all had the swastikas silvered. I have encountered many a fake with the swas completely black but not an original period badge to date. Frank, on the reverse of the example shown by Rick there appears to be two die flaws in the ring surrounding the maker mark - never saw that before on these, only the flaw at 10 o'clock. Further deterioration of the die?? In addition, that's a first for me also seeing that style of eagle on a Wegerhoff Gunner.
ERIC

[Frank Heukemes]

Dear Eric,

I have seen believable Deumers with a black swastika, e.g. the one pictured below.
If you read my posts in this thread, you will see I never offered an opinion on Rick´s badge. It is just important to me to bring the facts together so everybody can make his judgement. For me these facts are: only the eagle is really different, now even the rivets seem to be not so far away from at least one other GWL badge (Winkler´s).

Cheers, Frank

[Frank Heukemes]

rev

[Frank Heukemes]

And I think on this Deumer, the paint was also on the swaz, you can see remnants of the paint there:

[Frank Heukemes]

reverse

[John T]

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[John T]

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[John T]

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