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**Neil Howes** · 12-19-2003, 04:34 AM

Another way is to check the 3rd leaf up on the left (when viewed from the front) of the bottom bands.

Neil

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**J Temple-West** · 12-19-2003, 05:03 AM

Also, as well as the "infinity symbol", on the 1st leaf of the 'J2', let's not forget the bump...

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**Pascal H.** · 12-19-2003, 02:22 PM

Thank you guys for sharing this information with us

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You all made some very clear points how to distinct a 2nd pattern with a 3rd pattern wreath.

Thanks again,
Pascal

**Brian S** · 12-19-2003, 02:35 PM

You're right! Thanks. This should be included into the pilot badge writeup, IMHO.

J1, J2 & J3???