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    #16
    warren

    it does have some damage there but its not all the way through.
    I picked this up for $90.00 including the box. think I made out o.k.?
    ken

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      #17
      question for warren

      warren,
      my polets badge looks just like a pic. of a fake you posted in this tread.
      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...l+pilots+badge
      what is the difference in the fake and my badge considering you think mine is real?
      ken

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        #18
        Ken,
        Case and badge at 100.00, can't beat it, it appears to me that when those rivets were hammered on they damaged the wing. I'm glad to hear its not broke all the way thru that would lower the value IMHO.
        The fake I posted looks good at a distance its much smaller than an original and has file marks from clean up after casting. It was made in the 70's a direct casting of a badge like yours. The fine detail on the eagles face is not even there the feather detail is lacking too, it doesn't bend and the finish was done well but when its in hand you can see the difference. Goes to show you have to be careful buying things just from photos because it looks good on the PC screen.
        Warren

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          #19
          Does anyone have any comments on the case.

          Real or fake.

          JD
          What we do in life ehoes in eternity.

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            #20
            Case...

            Looks like somebody took a piece of sandpaper to it. That sorta scares me.

            Can you get the lower interior to lift out??

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              #21
              Dear Ken,

              The hinge on your badge is not so unusual and is one of two types found on that type pilot´s badge. Here is mine with the same type hinge.

              About the case: Looks ok at first sight but the sandpaper merks Tim mentioned are indeed a bit scary. I think we really need to get to the bottom of this (if you can lift the tray easily).

              Cheers, Frank
              Cheers, Frank

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                #22
                I'm with Frank on this one... Both types of hinge (block and barrel and Oval plate) are correct for these late badges.. I have seen crude, cast copies with square plate hinges and think that the crudeness and the square hinge plate show the difference between the good and the bad...
                here's one of mine for comaprison...
                Warmest Regards ... John

                cimilitaria.com

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                  #23
                  I believe those with the block hindge are earlier and those with the barrel type are later war. Also it would appear that both round and oval catch plates were used. The rivets on these are sometimes found neat and nicely rounded while others look out of shape.

                  My P&O has a slightly bubbled finish to the eagle. Almost like it's lifting off. These later badges in zinc are sort of crude IMO.

                  Ken
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                    #24
                    I have an unmarked Pilotand an unmarked P/O both zinc, both have block hinges.



                    Best,
                    JD
                    What we do in life ehoes in eternity.

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                      #25
                      DKiG case...but you get the idea
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                        #26
                        Pics for ken

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                          #27
                          heres the inside

                          thanks tyler, o.k. heres the inside real or fake? if the box is fake does that mean the badge is fake as well. if the badge is real did i get took at a $100 are was it a good deal
                          thanks all
                          ken

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                            #28
                            Hi,
                            the case looks fake..,the glue isn't the real thing IMO..
                            The badge however is good,so is still the price...

                            Jos.

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                              #29
                              That is a fake case, Ken. Can someone post a pic of what a real one looks like for Ken and others. I am fresh out. In agree that the badge is real, so your still ahead of the game.

                              JD
                              What we do in life ehoes in eternity.

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                                #30
                                fake case

                                thanks for all the input guys, I talked him into throwing in a denazified DRL sports badge to make up for the fake case.
                                ken

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