Juncker hinge study

[Larry Lipps]

It's just my guess, but I assume that for some reason the eagle was loose and the wreath was bored to allow better peening of the rivets. Although somewhat exaggerated on this one, this is not all that uncommon on paratrooper badges.

[Robert P.]

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[Ferg 1]

Hi Guys,thanks for your input,any more out there ?? Has anyone noticed on just a very few of the Juncker hinge barrels that the left side barrel as you look at the assembly has a tiny crimp/bar mark struck across it, just like a bar or no. 1 mark across the barrel. I have noticed this on a very few only . I guess it was a way to 'pinch' the barrel and stop the hinge axle coming out. I would be very interested in any one who can show me an example of this,thanks again guys.Ferg1.

[Robert P.]

Hi Guys,thanks for your input,any more out there ?? Has anyone noticed on just a very few of the Juncker hinge barrels that the left side barrel as you look at the assembly has a tiny crimp/bar mark struck across it, just like a bar or no. 1 mark across the barrel. I have noticed this on a very few only . I guess it was a way to 'pinch' the barrel and stop the hinge axle coming out. I would be very interested in any one who can show me an example of this,thanks again guys.Ferg1.

Maybe if the hinge pin was too short, not allowing the ends to be pressed inwardly from both ends, as was the case with the usual longer pins, they may have 'punched' the barrel hinge to keep the hinge pin in place, yes.

On a lot of other maker's barrel hinges this practice of pressing the pins from both ends to flatten them in order to keep them in place is common. Brehmer was good at this, in fact too good, with the hinge itself being moved inwardly with the pin. He really 'put the squeeze to it.'

Robert

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

Ferg, I'll post mine in a few hours when I get home. In the meantime, can you highlight this "1" you see on the hinge, I am having a hard time finding it.

Tom

[Ferg 1]

mark on hinge

Hi Tom, it only seems to be on a few hinge barrels. If you have a copy of the 2nd niemann reference book look on page 644 at the reverse of the pilot badge that has several '1' type strike marks on one side of the hinge. As I said it seems to be a crimping mark to hold the hinge pin in place. If you PM me with your e-mail I can send you a pic or two of a WW1 EK1 with the same mark . Regards,Ferg1.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Ferg,

Ah, I see what you are saying now, looking in Detlev's book. I can only scan my badges, and these type of angled shots are very blurry so I can't really post mine. I have an early, thin wreath J1 pilot badge as well as a Juncker RO/AG badge, both DO NOT have the marks on them. I do however have a B&NL RO/AG that does have similar marks. They are at the end of the barrel on both sides, and I am sure they were done to secure the hingepin from falling out. Here is a picture, but remember it is from a B&NL, not a Juncker.

Tom