Pilot badge - variation

[François SAEZ]

Assmann but .......

[François SAEZ]

well the back

[François SAEZ]

same

[François SAEZ]

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[Lorenzo Brown]

Ahhh...Ze clever Frainchman has posed ze question without actually asking ze question!
Very clever, zese Frainch! C'est si bon, mon ami!

I think the badge is a legitimate Assmann Pilot Badge. I will guess that the reason for the post is to question the "disc assembly". I have seen a few badges with this type of adjustment.

My #1 question is: who else but a recipient would have done this?

Question 2: (Devil's advocate) Why not a "top hook" to keep the badge from flopping down? Certainly, this badge affixed to a uniform would be "top heavy" and be looking like the Leaning Tower of Pisa with the top portion of the badge falling outwards.

However....the other purpose for questioning the badge may be the missing claws from the eagle's left talon. However, I have seen several Assmann pilot badges with this same feature....and I do not believe that it is an issue. Some of these badges were simply finished, or struck, without the claws....not a problem for me!

[Yuri D.]

Very nice modification to an Assmann badge done by a jeweler. Very professional.

Yuri

[ERIC S.]

Now that's pretty cool! Definately an Assmann in my eyes! Probably more stable attached to the tunic in this fashion ( a top hook would make sense here! ), but wouldn't one have to pop a hole in his tunic to wear it like that? Anyone have a tunic out there
with a " hole " where the badge loops for a Pilot's Badge should be located? That would be pretty interesting to see!
ERIC

[François SAEZ]

Disc modification on a Juncker one (from a RK winner)

[François SAEZ]

Back

[François SAEZ]

Back 2

[François SAEZ]

Visible maker mark

[Lorenzo Brown]

Great badge...also without a top-hook. BUT notice that the disc on the Juncker is much larger.
With the larger disc, you can see how the disc would overlap and tighten-up against the
wreath. With the tunic material between the wreath and the disc, the badge would
be held more securely in place.

However, this isn't true with the Assmann. The disc does not overlap the wreath
in the same fashion....so I think the Assmann would turn sideways a flop down
without the top-hook to hold the badge in place.

[J Temple-West]

Good afternoon Gentlemen, just a thought, on the Assmann.. After the badge was placed on the uniform, the backing plate placed on the inside, the screw tightened,would the cloth not have been forced between the plate and the wreath, keeping the badge stable ?
Nice to see such unusual setups..

[François SAEZ]

I share John's opinion on the Assmann

[Mark S.]

Interesting to note that on the Assmann, the attached pin is centered to the eagle, while on the Juncker the pin is centered to the badge, and quite likely the actual center of gravity.

Same modification, two different techiques..and quite possible two levels of jeweler experience.

Since these both were special made for the owner, one wonders what led them to do this? Frustration out of losing one maybe?

Very interesting, thanks for sharing Francois.

(PS my Assmann has the clipped toes as well. Annoying from a collector P.O.V. to be sure, but original to the period)