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**Rich G** · 12-30-2002, 10:43 AM

Just generally an all round fake! Here's an original B&NL pilot badge.

I don't recall EVER seeing a B&NL P/O badge!

Rich

**Jos L C** · 12-30-2002, 11:00 AM

Fantasy eagle,nothing like Richard's badge which is a original B&NL.

Jos.

**stogieman** · 12-30-2002, 11:02 AM

Reverse of P/O Badge

Looks like this:

**stogieman** · 12-30-2002, 11:04 AM

Thanks!

Thanks guys. It's pretty astounding, the amount of gouvna out there! I did like the eagle though, but I instantly shy away from any badge I see with that crappy, over the top wire hinge assembly.

**Tony Barto** · 12-30-2002, 11:13 AM

Looks like someone gave that bird a bad weggie!

**Frank Heukemes** · 01-01-2003, 07:55 AM

Dear all,

Note that this exact fantasy eagle with the strange head and funny leg space cutout also exists with a Imme & Sohn mark, mounted to a "dipped" wreath with a different hinge/pin/catch setup.

See pics.

Cheers & Happy New Year!

Frank

**Frank Heukemes** · 01-01-2003, 07:56 AM

reverse of the above mentioned FAKE

**ERIC S.** · 01-01-2003, 11:45 AM

Hi Frank,
Nice to see you back! Is that Pilot Badge in your database or are you in posession of it? How long have these "wedgie" pilots badges been around? I have seen the Juncker hallmark on these types also. I have to admit that the adler does have great details to it! - But alas, on that fantasy "dipped" wreath!

ERIC

**Joseph D'Errico** · 01-01-2003, 01:49 PM

Hello,

Richard would it be possible for you to post a pic of the reverse of your Pilot badge. I would like to include it in my data files. I have some pics from BN&L but I really like your example.

Cordially,
JD

**Rich G** · 01-01-2003, 01:55 PM

Joe

just for you

Rich

**Joseph D'Errico** · 01-01-2003, 04:59 PM

Thank you Richard,
JD

PS Nice example!

**Frank Heukemes** · 01-01-2003, 09:09 PM

Dear Eric,

That badge is not in my possession (phew! wiping sweat away), I found the picture on a smaller dealer´s website.
I remember Tim C. referring to this type of eagle´s head as the FUGLY head in other threads. It comes in many disguises as I could see in Tim´s picture collection of that F-head eagle. I don´t know exactly how long they have been around, I am aware of them for say 1 to 2 years now.

Cheers, Frank

**ERIC S.** · 01-02-2003, 03:50 PM

Thanks Frank! I'm REALLY glad it's not one of yours!( Here's a towel!

) I've seen these popping up only within the last year and a half myself.
ERIC

**DaveK** · 01-02-2003, 05:59 PM

I stay away from the "atomic wedgie" eagles. Apparently the gap between the legs is difficult to manufacture and/or finish with finesse. I saw a lot of these hit the U.S. market a few years back. Anyway, they are just plain ugly.

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