Honor Goblets Today

[TP Alexander]

UNTEROFFIZIER WILLI SCHREIBER am 23-01-42
4./Kampf-Geschwader 27
He received his Ehren Pokal in January of 1942 and was awarded the DKiG in November of the same year.
He was the pilot of an HE111.

[stgeorge64]

Oberfeldwebel Georg Spring

Flugzeugführer

Deutsche Kreuz in Gold
Ehrenpokal für besondere Leistung im Luftkrieg

Stuka-Ergänzungstaffel/VIII. Fliegerkorps
4./Sturzkampfgeschwader 77
Einsatzstaffel/Sturzkampfgeschwader 77
1./Schlachtgeschwader 77

Flugzeugführerabzeichen
Frontflug-Spange fur Kampfflieger in Bronze
Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse
Frontflug-Spange fur Kampfflieger in Silber
Eiserne Kreuz 1.Klasse
Frontflug-Spange fur Kampfflieger in Gold
Ehrenpokal für besondere Leistung im Luftkreig
Krimschild
Rumänische Aeronautical Verdienstmedialle III.Klasse mit Schwertern
Deutsche Kreuz in Gold
Frontflug-Spange fur Kampflieger in Gold mit Anhänger

Oberfeldwebel Spring was killed in 1944 while converting to Focke-Wulf Fw 190 aircraft with 1./Schlachtgeschwader 4.

[ebj]

As I posted earlier, I have a nice 100% original finish alpaka goblet to Unteroffizier Hans Jaekel in einem Kampfgeschwader, came from a Canadian vet in the 1960s. I finally located and have obtained the 30/11/1942 Ehrenliste with his name entry.

Any thoughts on how I might track down my goblet owner's Kampfgeschwader? Thanks!

[stgeorge64]

Oberfeldwebel Adolf Bäumer

Flugzeugführer

Deutsche Kreutz in Gold
Ehrenpokal für Besondere Leistung im Luftkreig

1./Kampfgeschwader 3

Eiserne Kreuz 2. Klasse
Eiserne Kreuz 1. Klasse
Ehrenpokal für besondere Leistung im Luftkrieg 18-05-42
Deutsches Kreuz in Gold 09-09-43

[bobgee526]

OFw Heinrich Wilhelm Ahnert - JG-52

OFw Ahnert flew with 3/JG-52. He scored his first victory, a Hurricane, over Ostend on 15 February 1941. He claimed 4 more more by 12 September - two Blenheims & 2 Spitfires. JG-52 moved to the East and Ahnert was credited with his first in Russia, a I-16 on 10 October. He received the Ehrenpokal on 23 February 1942 - an 835 Silver pokal. His score mounted rapidly and in May & June 1942 he recorded 30 victories. He was adding to his score in July and August . He was awarded the German Cross in Gold on 27 July 1942. his last victory was an Il-2 on 23 August 1942 - his 57th. He met his fate attacking a Pe-2 that same day when he was hit by fire by the rear gunner and crashed to his death. He was flying Bf-109G "Yelllow 9".

Ironically it was that same day that he was to receive the Knight's Cross. According to the Volksbund he has no known burial place. His photo, with Knight's Cross, has obviously been photo-shopped. His KC, DKiG, Pilot's Badge are in the collection of another WAF member. None of his documents are known to exist.

[bobgee526]

OFw Heinrich Wilhelm Ahnert - JG-52

OFw Ahnert flew with 3/JG-52. He scored his first victory, a Hurricane, over Ostend on 15 February 1941. He claimed 4 more more by 12 September - two Blenheims & 2 Spitfires. JG-52 moved to the East and Ahnert was credited with his first victory in Russia, a I-16 on 10 October. He received the Ehrenpokal on 23 February 1942 - an 835 Silver pokal. His score mounted rapidly and in May & June 1942 he recorded 30 victories. He was adding to his score in July and August and he was awarded the German Cross in Gold on 27 July 1942. his last victory was an Il-2 on 23 August 1942 - his 57th.

He met his fate attacking a Pe-2 that same day when he was hit by fire by the rear gunner and crashed to his death. Ironically it was that same day that he was to receive the Knight's Cross. The photo of him wearing the Ritter Kreuz is a mystery. Was it photo-shopped or did he receive his award and later that day was killed in action?

According to the Volksbund he has no known burial place.

[bobgee526]

OFw Gustav KLOTH -

Gustav Kloth received his Beobachterabzeichen and flew as an Observer in 3.(F)/31. He later became a pilot.

He received the Ehrenpokal on 2-10-1942. He received the German Cross in Gold on 20 March 1944. He had received the EK II & EK I in 1941. He also had the Frontflugspangen in Bronze, Silver and Gold - the last on 17 August 1942.

He survived the war and died in Cologne on July 26, 1972.

[Brian S]

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JG 51
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[Brian S]

Knights Cross Oct, 1941. Super early BoB ace. Wish I had the goblet but...

[ww2gunguy]

My only contribution is my Pokal to RK winner Alfred Bollmann...I have a pretty decent grouping of his pictures and documents...interestingly enough was went on to be a Judge after the war.

[e-maus]

My contribution is Honor Goblet of RK winner Oberleutnant Josef Remberg
Jacek

[bobgee526]

A nice Document group to Ehrenpokal recipient ObLt Gerhard KEILHORN - Pilot - JU-88 - KG-51 “Edelweiss” - Killed in Action in Russia on 21 July 1942. Document group only consisting of an early 2nd Type EhrenPokal Document dated 23 December 1942, original combat Flying Log Book (Flugbuch) which includes missions to England in March 1941; he was shot down & wounded on his 81st combat mission to Rostow; he recovered and continued flying until he was shot down in Ju-88/9K-KR on 21 July 1942, his 137th combat mission, Awarded EK I on 17 July 1941, Black Wound Badge on 8 Dember 1941, awarded Bomber Spangen Docs for Bronze, Silver and Gold Awards, Official Condolence Certificate and other miscellaneous documents. Location of his Honor Goblet and his badges & Awards unknown.

[stgeorge64]

A nice Document group to Ehrenpokal recipient ObLt Gerhard KEILHORN - Pilot - JU-88 - KG-51 “Edelweiss” - Killed in Action in Russia on 21 July 1942.

Location of his Honor Goblet and his badges & Awards unknown.

I wondered where this Kampfgeschwader 51 grouping had ended up! I considered long and hard on this set, too long as it turned out as it is indeed a very nice set indeed and definatly one I regret not going for.

I do not know the location of his actual Ehrenpokal however, I know that his Wehrpass was being punted around dealer sites for quite some time before currently sitting in a collection in Scotland at this time.

Regards Richard.

[eubank]

Well now I know where all the RKT fighter pilot goblets are!! Well done!

My contribution:

Rainer Nossek. RKT Stuka Tank buster

Gary B

Great thread, the biographies on these pilots is astonishing...just for example Nossek, escape & evasion behind Russian lines, shot down 5 (!!) times, 800 missions (!)...and dies just days before the end of the war...fascinating stuff gentlemen.

[Gary B]

Great thread, the biographies on these pilots is astonishing...just for example Nossek, escape & evasion behind Russian lines, shot down 5 (!!) times, 800 missions (!)...and dies just days before the end of the war...fascinating stuff gentlemen.

The history of these pieces makes them special. One of the few pieces of militaria from the TR era that cane be researched.

Gary B