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    Auxiliary War Cruiser badge help needed

    Although this badge look nice to hold, looking at the examples in books and web sites I am not confident about the catch and detail. What do you think? I could not find it on the fake link
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    #2
    It looks like a casting with an incorrectly stamped (rather than correctly raised) maker mark.

    Regards
    Mike
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    Mike

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      #3
      Despite the softness of the detail, it actually looks like an original worn S&L but refinished and given a spurious maker mark likely quite a while ago.

      The globe, rivet and hardware look correct for variant AC# 3.1.3 in the Auxiliary Cruiser classification system.

      Not a common variant with this hardware, but unfortunately it's been ruined.

      Best regards,
      ---Norm

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        #4
        Thanks guys, I think that you are right the maker mark has been added. I remember in the eighties looking only for maker marked badges which is probably when it was done. What a shame. I looks good as a display piece I guess

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          #5
          Like Norm mentioned it looks like a period S&L variant with a spurious Schwerin maker mark.
          here is one this type that i have with the barrel hinge and wide pin.

          Cheers,Martin.
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          Last edited by John R.; 05-04-2019, 05:18 PM.

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            #6
            It a real shame why people try to make things more attractic just for money. At least yhe front of tha badge looks ok. Thanks for all your comments, I have been hesitant about putting it on here for ages, but at least know I know.

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              #7
              Sorry, I thought I saw casting lines on the image which showed some internal edges. Could the owner confirm the globe is a separate piece?
              Regards
              Mike

              Evaluate the item, not the story and not the seller's reputation!

              If you PM/contact me without the courtesy of using your first name, please don't be offended if I politely ignore you!

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                #8
                Why is the market being flooded with fake stamping all of a sudden?
                Surely this is out of the ordinary
                Kind regards Chay

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                  #9
                  It is a two picece badge, I have attached a few more photos. Regards Nigel
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by kalamees View Post
                    It is a two picece badge....l

                    Regards
                    Mike

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                    If you PM/contact me without the courtesy of using your first name, please don't be offended if I politely ignore you!

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by upbeek View Post
                      Why is the market being flooded with fake stamping all of a sudden?
                      Surely this is out of the ordinary
                      Kind regards Chay
                      Nope, a quite common practise in the golden era of scams in the 1970s and 80s.
                      Assembly of post-war parts, fake badges and fake maker marks were all common practices.

                      In this thread you can see another S&L, this time a post-war assembled U-Boat badge, with a similar spurious "SCHWERIN" mark:
                      http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=853040

                      Best regards,
                      ---Norm

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                        #12
                        Thanks Norm, the link is really useful. I have learned a lot from this badge

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Norm F View Post
                          Nope, a quite common practise in the golden era of scams in the 1970s and 80s.
                          Assembly of post-war parts, fake badges and fake maker marks were all common practices.

                          In this thread you can see another S&L, this time a post-war assembled U-Boat badge, with a similar spurious "SCHWERIN" mark:
                          http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=853040

                          Best regards,
                          ---Norm
                          Great link Norm thank you,
                          I never thought or knew about this practice!
                          Such a shame to add fake markings

                          Kind regards Chay

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                            #14
                            On a side note,all original Steinhauer & Luck variants were of two piece construction,meaning a separately attached globe.

                            Cheers,Martin.

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                              #15
                              most likely post war assembly and postwar stamp but the stamp.. shame that people ruin original parts just for little more money.

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