Hi John,
The top badge is very nice Wiedemann zincer, type 5.8.1 in the Classification system It's a pity that the main pin and the hinge pin are replaced.
I enclose mine for comparison.
The bottom badge is also original wartime compatible S&L zincer, type 1.2.7 in the Classification system, but it was refinished on the obverse IMO and there is a spurious maker's mark added on the reverse which was a common postwar practice to increase value of the badge.
It's a very minor point of distinction, but it could be that the original round-wire main pin was shortened from the top and then resoldered to that fat replacement hinge pin.
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