two more

[Bob K]

[Thomas Durante]

These are in the wrong section Bob, I will move over to the Kriegsmarine badge forum.

The left one is a fake, the right one is good IMO.

Tom

[Bob K]

Thanks Tom, like I said badges are out of my area.

[Norm F]

The left one is a fake, the right one is good IMO.

Tom

I agree. The left one is an old fake based upon the S&L design and with a spurious "21" mark. The right one is the Rettenmaier-attributed type, at least some of which were wartime.

Best regards,
---Norm

[BubbaZ]

I agree. The left one is an old fake based upon the S&L design and with a spurious "21" mark. The right one is the Rettenmaier-attributed type, at least some of which were wartime.

Best regards,
---Norm

Agreed.
Cheers,
Hubert

[Bob K]

Update:
Got the one on the right. Thanks fellas!

[Norm F]

It's probably worth pointing out that the old "21" marked fake Coastal Artillery was no doubt produced by the same source as the fake U-Boat badges that were in the same auction lot (posted here). Same hinge and main pin. I would assume these came out of the same old collection.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

The "21" fakes all have the same surface flaws which presumably were reproduced from the original crimped S&L badge used as the basis for the casting.