Info required re fake Auxillary Cruiser badges

[Lemm]

Greeting one and all,

I am currently looking around the various dealers for a nice Auxillary Cruiser badge and would appreciate some help from you guys in respect to what fake badges are about. Would love to see any pics you might have depicting fake acb's. At this time I am seeking a nice Junckers or Schwerin badge but any pic of a fake acb would be appreciated. Thanks.

Phil

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Phil, sorry I cannot add any photos of fakes for you. But this advise has been offered before on the forum and I still think it holds true. Rather than studied fakes, of which there are legion, study the details of known originals.

I can add a couple of pics of my badge which is a zinc one made by "FO" if that would help you?

Cheers, Ade.

[Lemm]

Hi Adrian,


Thanks for the tip and yes I have some pics of known originals but I occasionally hear of the "Schwerin fakes" but I have yet to see a pic of one. I think this would help in my search for the genuine item. Indeed, I would be happy if you could post the pics of your fo badge. Thanks again.

Phil

[Adrian Stevenson]

Original badge

Hi Phil, here is my badge. You are welcome to save the pics for you files.

Have you done a search on the forum as these badges have been discussed in the past?

Cheers, Ade.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Original badge

I bought this one back in the late 1970's for £16

Cheers, Ade.

[Adrian Stevenson]

Original badge

Here is the back of the badge.

[MH184]

Ade makes a valid point, it's best to study the originals so to speak than the fakes, I'm not sure about a Junker good quality fake out there, dubious sorts yes but there are certainly Schwerin fakes from semi good to bad.

Corrct me guys if I'm wrong please, but with the Juncker badge there is one type considered original with no real deviation, but for the Schwerin badge you've at least 3 'metal' types for a start (you know whats deemed as early - late) and the minor differences in them too.

Sadly I lost my files due to a computer virus, but Rob, Phil DB, Lorenzo, Frank, Mike K etc could well have some examples of the Detlev fake of the week and other examples too.

I'm novice so don't pay to much heed to my words, wait for the others.

Here's my genuine Juncker.

Kr

Marcus

[MH184]

Back Ju

[Lemm]

Thanks Adrian....16 pounds you have got to be kidding. I always knew I started in this hobby way way to late. By the way...I was looking at a web site in the UK run by an Alan Beadle who has a lot of items. I dont think much of his pics but he seems to have a few Auxillary Cruiser badges for sale and some at what I consider very reasonable prices (not 16 pounds though). My question is have you had dealings with this man and what is his reputation like.


Phil

[Adrian Stevenson]

Hi Phil, I have dealt with him but many, many years ago. I would, like all other dealers, exercise caution, and know what you are buying. His photos are always poor. His retutation is not the best nowadays.


Cheers, Ade.

[Mike Kenny]

Hi Phil,

I have to echo the previous comments - it's much easier to learn what one or two types of original badges look like thant to try and learn ALL the different types of fakes.

Rob Hudspith has written a really good article dealing with Schwerin badges on the Member's only section of Wehrmacht-Awards.com - well worth a look.

You asked for some repro badges, so here are a couple of better quality Schwerin repros.

Regards
Mike K

The first from Detlev....

[Mike Kenny]

Next, one from a certain auction house....

[Lemm]

Thanks Mike, Marcus and Ade for the info and help. Will take all the advice on board. Appreciate the pics too.


Phil

[ROBB]

Here is a picture of my fake one .Rob.

[ROBB]

Here is a picture of my fake one .Rob.

The reverse .Rob.