Coastal Artillery Maker Help

[Bob Hritz]

Does anyone know the maker of this Coastal Artillery Badge?

Thank you,
Bob Hritz

[Bob Hritz]

Hinge and catch detail

[Martin W]

Hi Bob,

it looks like a zinc Steinhauer & Luck "crimped hinge" variant.

Regards,Martin.

[Norm F]

Hi Bob,

I agree with Martin, a nice example of the S&L-attributed Coastal Artillery, crimped variant.

Here are the various setups seen on this type of badge. The badge on the lower left has the classic "S&L-type" catch.

And here's an S&L Coastal Artillery badge envelope -- unfortunately no award found in it but at least shows they sold one.

Furthermore, original correspondence from S&L to Paul Wissmann in July of 1942 states that S&L were already set up for the Coastal Artillery badge and therefore didn't need to accept Wissmann's kind offer for tooling for that one.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Here's the example that was mounted on the Lüdenscheid souvenir boards sold by eMedals. The description of that board was as follows:
"Steinhauer & Lück" sales agent board, Navy,
Complete board with 13 awards: Spanish cross with swords in “Bronze”, marked “4”; Spanish cross with swords in “Gold”, marked “4”; Spanish cross in “Bronze”, maker “4”; Spanish cross in “Silver”, marked “4”; Spanish cross in “Gold” (without swords), maker “4”; these all in bronze, gilding and silvering faded, more gilding remains on reverse; E-Boat Badge, first pattern, in zinc alloy; U-Boat badge, in zinc alloy; Destroyer War Badge, in zinc alloy; High Seas Fleet Badge, in zinc alloy; Auxiliary Cruiser Badge, riveted globe, in zinc alloy; Coastal Artillery War Badge, in zinc alloy; Blockade Runners Badge, in zinc alloy; Minesweeper Badge, in zinc alloy. Finish mostly faded on all badges, all unworn, extremely fine condition. (Sold with expert evaluation/guarantee, by D. Niemann)."

Most figure this was likely a souvenir board rather than an S&L sales board per se, but S&L awards certainly dominated on them.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Here's the example that was sold on SVM from what was described as a U.S. vet bring-back of a salesman's case, again with the standard array of mostly S&L-attributed awards.

[Norm F]

Here's the example that was sold on Weitze and described as:
"This award comes from the 3 panels of a souvenir medal British occupation troops in Ludenscheid, around 1945."
This was another 3-panel set like the eMedals set with a similar array of the same S&L-attributed badges with some variant setups like this crimped version.

[Norm F]

And another one from Weitze, this time from another 3-part sales case with the description (crudely translated by Google) as follows:
2nd World War: Large Order sample case from a commercial agent Lüdenscheid. This is one of the last remaining existing Orders sample case of the firm of Steinhauer & Lück, Lüdenscheid, which is still preserved. Made probably from 1944. The box is covered in blue imitation leather, Dimensions 29 x 35 cm. Inside are three trays of 59 awards mounted. Each tray has medals laid in four inlaid tables, removable with lateral straps. The individual badges are
plugged into the 12 inlaid tables and detach easily. Almost all awards come from the company Steinhauer & Lück, is only the Flakabzeichen by the company Assmann. Because of the late war production, all combat badges produced in zinc. In particular, it is the following awards:
Table 1: Knight's Cross of the Iron Cross in 1939, at the back "micro 800"
stamped. German Cross in gold, back on the needle "4". Iron Cross 2nd 1939 Class manufacturers in the ring, "4". Iron Cross 1939 1st Class manufacturer of the needle "4". Repetition clasp "1939" for the first EK Class of 1914, refined zinc. War Service 1939 1 Class with and without swords, both on the needle "stamped 4". KVK 2nd 1939 Class with and without swords and KVK Medal. Battle medal. Wall Medal. Purple heart
1939 fades to black, silver and gold, the gold plating. Infantry Assault Badge in silver, shaped hollow. General
Assault Badge. Army Flakkampfabzeichen. Close combat clasp in bronze, Silver and gold, the faded gilding. All six combat badge without Manufacturer name.
Table 2: Fleet War Badge, zinc, semi execution. Coastal Artillery Badge. U-boat war badge. Blockade Runner Badge. Erdkampfabzeichen the Air Force. Aviator shooter badge without flash bundle. Flakkampfabzeichen the Air Force, Manufacturer "A". Parachute Rifle Badge. Aviator shooter badge with flash bundle. Combatclasp for Reconnaissance in bronze, silver and gold gilding faded. Combatclasp for hunters in bronze. Pilot badge. Air Force support for the rifle line in silver and gold. Edition for the WH tank rifle line 5 level. Sleeve shield Crimean 1941/1942. Kraftfahrbewährungsabzeichen in silver on LW-cloth.
Table 3: RAD Service Award for men in bronze, silver and gold. RAD Service Award for women in gold. Police Service Award
for 8 years. WH Long Service Award for 12, 15 and 25 years. Civil Service Faithful Service Medal in silver and gold. Very interesting late
Production with black painted swastikas. German Driver's Badge in silver. German riding badge in bronze and Silver. Air defense-first medals Stage. Commemorative medal to the Return of the Memel country. Pit Defense Service Medal (at the wrong tape!). German people care coin. Cross of Honour of the German mother Bronze, silver and gold.
All badges were in the box the last 65 years well protected are in mint condition, only in the U- Boot war badge needle hinge has come off.
A unique set of Orders historical significance!"

[Norm F]

Here's the comparison to the S&L-attributed zinc IAB with the same "banana crimp" setup.

[Norm F]

And then of course the one anomaly, this example belonging to a member of WAF and other forums. This is the same setup as the one on the eMedals board but this is the only example to appear with a "B&N,L" stamp suggesting Berg & Nolte. There are no other known B&NL Kriegsmarine badges and it remains unknown if this was a badge marked by B&NL for re-sale or if they were involved somehow in the manufacture (or for that matter when the mark was applied). One of those little mysteries.

Note that it has some coarse linear grinding marks on the reverse are often seen to varying extents on other examples of this type and which are prominent on the eMedals example in post #5.

[Bob Hritz]

Thank you all very much. I was completely unfamiliar with this patterm..
Bob Hritz

[BubbaZ]

Hi Bob,
I agree, you have nice S&L zinc CAB, crimped variant
I have two crimped S&L CABs in my collection, one is common zincer while the other is very uncommon since it is copper plated.
Cheers,
Hubert

[BubbaZ]

more images of the copper plated variant

[BubbaZ]

and more.
Cheers,
Hubert

[Norm F]

Speaking of Hubert's variant with the copper undercoating, I just came across these old images from Emeredato's site of the wide-pin variant of the S&L Coastal Artillery badge. Hard to say for sure, but from the photos I suspect this may be another example with the copper undercoating, in which case only the second one we've seen so far and with a different setup. Very interesting.

Best regards,
---Norm