Nice Navy grouping...

[Schütze0815]

Sadly no documents or information on the soldier, but all from one guy.
Regards
Sascha

[Tom Yanacek]

Hello Sascha,

Looks like a real nice grouping.

Best regards,
Tom

[AndyC]

Nice Group


Andy

[BubbaZ]

Hi Sascha,
Very nice grouping indeed
Cheers,
Hubert

[JAndrew]

To play the devil's advocate, if we have no information on the soldier and no documents then how do we know this is all from one person? Or to put it another way, 50 years from now when I am dead and my grandchildren are trying to sell off my collection to pay off all the women coming out of the woodwork wanting child support, how would they convince a potential buyer that these were all earned by one person?
JAndrew

[PaulR]

In a group like this, documents will be the only real thing that ties to the sailor. Even if they were available, who would prove the these actual badges belonged to the document holder.

ANYWAY, great grouping. Was the original owner a CO of a ship?

[JAndrew]

Paul,
Granted that is a lot of awards but it would not have to be a ship's skipper or even an officer. I have seen pics of Maats and Obermaats with this many awards.
JAndrew

[Norm F]

Hi Sascha,

Story or no story, nice items! Can you please post better photos of the KM badges obverse and reverse? I like the nice honest finish on that zinc Fleet badge.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Schütze0815]

To play the devil's advocate, if we have no information on the soldier and no documents then how do we know this is all from one person? Or to put it another way, 50 years from now when I am dead and my grandchildren are trying to sell off my collection to pay off all the women coming out of the woodwork wanting child support, how would they convince a potential buyer that these were all earned by one person?
JAndrew

Hi Andrew,
see that was a family pick up and I listen what the family told me. So maybe the vet was in the navy and in WW 2 I can go with the story. Or all the family medals went in a box and I bought them.
Story is always nice, but I only paid for the badges.....

...and yes I will make better pictures for you Norm

[JAndrew]

Sascha,
Thank you for the reply to my comment (which was not meant with any disrespect). From what you say there is some information on the sailor from the family as to name, possibly rank and other things - if they were willing to have that released - that a collector could use as a starting point for research. I think many of us who have been doing this for a while become jaded and rather than look at the possitive aspects of a piece or pieces we search for negatives.
All in all it is a nice grouping and family information on the recipient would make it even nicer.
Regards,
JAndrew

[petopoint]

Very Nice.

Congrats on a Very Nice Group of Great looking items.

[Schütze0815]

Sascha,
Thank you for the reply to my comment (which was not meant with any disrespect). From what you say there is some information on the sailor from the family as to name, possibly rank and other things - if they were willing to have that released - that a collector could use as a starting point for research. I think many of us who have been doing this for a while become jaded and rather than look at the possitive aspects of a piece or pieces we search for negatives.
All in all it is a nice grouping and family information on the recipient would make it even nicer.
Regards,
JAndrew

Hi Andrew,
I try to find out something more and let you know...
Regards
Sascha

[Ludwig]

[münster]

To play the devil's advocate, if we have no information on the soldier and no documents then how do we know this is all from one person? Or to put it another way, 50 years from now when I am dead and my grandchildren are trying to sell off my collection to pay off all the women coming out of the woodwork wanting child support, how would they convince a potential buyer that these were all earned by one person?
JAndrew

I wish they would come out of the woodwork long after I was dead LOL

Actually though J, a lot of stuff comes like this over here. I have gotten items in old coffee cans or boxes with what appears to be generations of the families items. You can seperate usually out whom was whom, I had a LW grouping and in it were also 1870 items and WW1. I had a box of HJ items that traced the boys career in The HJ and also in it were some civillian items and a cased 50 year TS,,obviously his Fathers. Ibelieve the posters items all came together. In the future though it really makes no sense to sell it as a group, plus from a selling stand point you lose money to sell it as a grouping. In the future it would be a footnote to the individual pieces to a buyer if that.

[JAndrew]

Munster, I don't doubt what you say one bit and the same thing happens here as well which I am sure you know.

But because of some of the things that happen in this hobby we hear on this site and other places the constant refrain, "Buy the piece and not the story." I think we all understand why that is. But I also worry that in many cases, possibly as with this group, the story is all there is and if that is ignored then it will be forgotten. I feel that many groups get broken up because of the lack of tangible evidence that the items belong together and much history, albeit minor history, is then lost forever. Yet history as a whole is a mosaic of individual histories, a few major but the vast majority minor. So with every "tile" that is lost it blurs the image of history that much more for future generations. I don't have an answer. I am just offering the observation.

Certainly what Sasha is doing by putting the value of the group based on the value of the individual piece is fair and honest but any added information, even verbally, would put the icing on the cake.

JAndrew