Some KM badges for review

[HuD]

Hello everyone, a friend offered me a small collection of KM badges that i would like to show here to get some feedback before thinking to get em.

The first two badges are zincker U-Boats with no much finish left... but i guess originals. One is unmarked and the second one is marked GWL.

[HuD]

Second badge marked GWL.

[HuD]

Two more pics with open pins.
Many thanks for comment,
best,
Stefano

[Norm F]

Hi Stefano,

Your first posted badge, the unmarked one, is yet another unmarked zinc variety I can't place. I saw another one of these not long ago listed on philipp-militaria.com and wonder about it at that time.

Funny, it looks sort of halfway between the two Mayer designs (the Buntmetall and the very different zinc).

Here's that other example.

Best regards,
---Norm

[Norm F]

Catch plate is different and the catch on your seems to open the other way...

[Norm F]

And here's another example, missing its catch.

[John R.]

GWL badge is fine. Period example.

John

[HuD]

Hi Stefano,

Your first posted badge, the unmarked one, is yet another unmarked zinc variety I can't place. I saw another one of these not long ago listed on philipp-militaria.com and wonder about it at that time.

Funny, it looks sort of halfway between the two Mayer designs (the Buntmetall and the very different zinc).

Here's that other example.

Best regards,
---Norm

Hi Norm, thanks a lot for your feedback and additional pics, it really looks like the same badge.
You are right, the catch on the first badge is opened to the opposite side (left) but at the same time everything on the hardware is in same condition, also some little corrosion... possibly another hardware set-up variant?

Any idea or indication of the value of such badges?

Many thanks,
Stefano

[HuD]

GWL badge is fine. Period example.

John

Thanks a lot John, it's not in good condition but i kind of like this well worn badge.
Best,
Stefano

[HuD]

Hello guys, after the Uboats, i have a couple of more KM badges for your review.
This time will be two Minesweepers and the first one is unmarked and slightly vaulted. Type one with 7 waves?

[HuD]

The second badge with a different hardware set-up.
The wreath and eagle colour looks like more light green than goldish.
Possibly a Deumer?

Many thanks for any comments,
Best,
Stefano

[Norm F]

Hi Stefano,

Yes, both Deumers. Like you say the type 1, "Schwerin-type", wave pattern.

The first is a nice unmarked tombak. This came in two different setups, the vertical needle-pin like shown or the horizontal wide pin like your second badge. Your second one is of course zinc, and many but not all of these have this type of gilding that faded to olive green. It's the original finish though.

I should mention that these are all attributed to Deumer because there exist L/11 marked versions of the tombak with both setups. However, given that GWL used the same horizontal pin setup on their tombak Destroyer, and that there exists an almost identical but unmarked Destroyer with a "Deumer-like" vertical pin setup, one can't rule out the possibility that some of the unmarked Minesweepers are by GWL using almost identical sister dies, or that there may have been a working relationship between Deumer and GWL (both in Lüdenscheid).

Best regards,
---Norm

[HuD]

Hi Norm, thanks so much, your help is really much appreciated
I will have few more KM badges to post here, hopefully by tonight...
All the best,
Stefano

[Adrian]

Both nice Minesweepers Stefano. You don't seem to find the vertical pin setup very often.

[HuD]

Both nice Minesweepers Stefano. You don't seem to find the vertical pin setup very often.

Thanks a lot Adrian, that's good to know
Stefano