Repro Identification

[B-Rye]

Can someone please tell me, if this is a reproduction or a genuine badge.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?ai...0&l=b1c9c59ca4

[mrg]

Very blurred but going of these and the look of the reverse set up not one for me

[John R.]

Need better photos uplifted directly to this forum vice hosted images.

John

[Mike Kenny]

Well I now have to admit I have been on facebook - looking at those pics was my first time!

Pics are very poor. I can't say I like the hardware or the reverse profile. Too hard to say anything else. This is not one I'd risk buying based on those pics.

Regards
Mike

[Ischak]

Photos are bad, badge is ww1 for sure.. Cant say repro or original, cause nothing can be seen from those pictures.

[Darrell]

If that maker mark is supposed to be SCHOTT ..... run .....

[Mike Kenny]

If that maker mark is supposed to be SCHOTT ..... run .....

There was a maker mark??!! Pics are definitely bad - I totally missed it!

[juoneen]

Makers mark is on lower back part of wreath in the center, you can just make it out. Might be a good one her dad brought home, or grandpa? who knows , maybe ask her.

[Tim B.]

It appears to be of the Schott design however, I believe it's a copy. The die characterisitcs are pretty close to original Schott U-boat badges but, not 100% correct.

Keep in mind that original Schott badges were made well into the 30's and have some variations in hardware but, the badge itself remained the same. Additionally, Schott badges are the most copied of all Imperial U-boat badges and some are quite convincing; almost like the Schwerin U-boat badge issues in TR collecting.

I might suggest searching in the Imperial section as I have just recently posted a thread on these and show several original (Schott) badges for comparison. You can see the differences in this one, despite the poor PIC's.

My vote would be to pass here.
Tim

[John R.]

Since you asked the question on your profile page, you need to join the forum at which point you will be able to directly upload images onto your thread topic.

Right now you can only upload one image per post, but that is changing to two images per post. To be clear, this is per post, not per thread, so if you have 4 images, right now it takes 4 posts to get all your images onto your thread but that will change to where it will take only 2 posts of 2 images to get all 4 images on the thread.

John

[Darrell]

Well I now have to admit I have been on facebook - looking at those pics was my first time!

Pics are very poor. I can't say I like the hardware or the reverse profile. Too hard to say anything else. This is not one I'd risk buying based on those pics.

Regards
Mike

Mike, it appears to be an attempt at SCHOTT from where I see it:

[Mike Kenny]

Hi Darrell,

Yes, I went back yesterday to have another look - I noticed the blurry mark then. Not possible to comment on the authenticity of that mark!!

Regards
Mike

[Tim B.]

My opinion; it's not a good one, at least not an original Schott badge.

Look at all the die characteristic differences when viewed from the reverse.

- The cuts along the crown are more "V" shaped on this one.

- The upper outline on the "boat" is considerably different from front to back.

- Though there are noted differences in hardware on original Schott badges, the hinge is smaller and the catch appears to be flat vice round wire stock on this one.

Even if the mark looked close, there are too many differences for me.
Tim

[Darrell]

Tim I agree. That's why I suggested if that "mark" was indeed "supposed" to be SCHOTT I'd run. Like Mike says, almost impossible to tell from the blurry pics, but it sure appears to be trying to mimick a SCHOTT mm.

You can see the two lines of the mm. Top SCHOTT, the bottom FEC.

[Tim B.]

Hi Darrell,

Yes, I saw it (if I can really say I saw anything with those pics), and agree that this is another one of the many versions of Schott copies. I recently posted another comparision to a silver version over at GMIC and that one is different yet again.

Wonder if these are just coming out of the woodwork, or if Schott copies are making the rounds again.

Still haven't got into British Victorian pieces yet...thank God, can only imagine the minefields and costs there!! One day, you'll need to "inspire" me.
Tim