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    HJ Ausweis and Fuhrerausweis same boy

    I thought I would contribute to the new forum. Two ausweis that belong to the same boy / young man from Bielefeld. I believe the first one was issued on May 1, 1938 (Horst Wessel 7/158) and promoted to Rottenfuhrer on September 1, 1942.
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    A photo of my cat as my HJ ID booklets seem to be unimpressive. Lol !
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      #3
      Very nice documents. I have a set for the same boy also. The cat is not as rare.
      Best,
      Garry

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        #4
        Nice document group . It is interesting to see that possibly from an economic stance in that region , they went from glue in paper stamps to just an ink stamping for the proof of payment of monthly dues .

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          Originally posted by Joe B View Post
          Nice document group . It is interesting to see that possibly from an economic stance in that region , they went from glue in paper stamps to just an ink stamping for the proof of payment of monthly dues .
          It's actually not really that interesting if you understand what happened in 1940 Joe.
          Last edited by Cracked; 03-18-2020, 06:46 PM.

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            Originally posted by Cracked View Post
            It's actually not really that interesting if you understand what happened in 1940 Joe.
            We’re all plenty aware of what happened in 1940.
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              Originally posted by Cracked View Post
              It's actually not really that interesting if you understand what happened in 1940 Joe.
              Ps, you’re welcome
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                KIA, April 25, 1945
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                  Originally posted by Cracked View Post
                  It's actually not really that interesting if you understand what happened in 1940 Joe.
                  I do believe I am a bit educated with the HJ " Cracked " Maybe even moreso than you sir . Economically it would make since to go from paper to stampings for the war effort . Three of my aunts and an uncle were in the Hitlerjugend , My grandfather served in Russia , Belgium , Italy and Germany itself (Frozen flesh , EK2 , WB silver , IAB , CCC bronze ). My mother , grandmother (Mothers cross bronze ) and my three aunts survived the battle of Berlin , my uncle went missing . My aunt Laura was a BDM mid level leader .

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                    #10
                    I doubt that very much "Joe B". Your guess is incorrect. As the moderator of this sub-forum and a self-professed expert I would have expected you not to have to make guesses about the stamps. That's all I meant.

                    Here's the actual answer as to why the paper stamps stop being used
                    Last edited by Cracked; 03-21-2020, 06:35 AM.

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                      I put the wrong link. Here is the correct one:

                      Here's the actual answer as to why paper stamps stopped being used

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                        #12
                        Cracked , I have never stated to be " a self proclaimed expert " . If you look through my postings on HJ Research you will see that I even say " I am no expert " a few times , I do state that have educuated myself from many years of studying the HJ and still learning something new at times . I do have 40 plus years of experience with 3rd Reich militaria and a keen interest in the Hitlerjugend since the early 1980s . With this hobby , some collectors specialize in daggers others like paperwork . I prefer uniforms , headgear and insignia . I can name the experts on less than 1 hand . I have even proven people wrong once or twice as well . ( PM me and I will inform you what thread to look for ) ..

                        You posted a link to a thread within the HJ Research forum .
                        In the future please just write in your own words what you have researched yourself as I doubt HJ Research Admin would appreciate a copy/pasted thread to the forum on WAF .

                        Edit : After consulting with WAF admin , I will allow external links from other forums to be used and credited as reference in threads as long as anyone viewing said thread can see them as well .
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                          Joe B,

                          I'm sure that I'm not alone in not having the time, let alone the the inclination, to re-type information that already exists elsewhere just because you have a personal dislike of HJ-research. You left there under a cloud of your own making and you must deal with that in whatever way you see fit but I would suggest that suppressing any mention of that forum this isn't the way to do it.

                          Links exist as a convenient way to share relevant information that helps others. That's how the internet works. Links also have the added purpose of giving credit where credit is due. Are you really asking me to give you information from an eleven year old HJ forum that is jam-packed with useful stuff, much of it unique, without ever actually mentioning its name?

                          I'm not Garry but you clearly think I am. However, why don't you just links to the one or two threads where where you proved him wrong here instead of asking me to request them privately? Or is that another example of your dislike of hj-research and your desire to suppress any mention of it?

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                            Cracked , if I am wrong please correct me ... but I do not believe you are a Moderator or admin on WAF so dont tell me how to do my job sir .
                            I have no issue with HJ Research itself . I respect the forum more than you can fathom as I was there from the begining as well as the first forum it was born from before that . You assume that I think you are the creator/Admin there . I dont care if you are or not , however ; if you keep up your little snide remarks about me like you have done here : "As the moderator of this sub-forum and a self-professed expert I would have expected you not to have to make guesses about the stamps" and here " I'm not (++++) but you clearly think I am" and here : "You left there under a cloud of your own making and you must deal with that in whatever way you see fit " Then we will have issues and they will be dealt with at an Administrative level . Take this as a warning sir , dont do it anymore .

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                            Last edited by Joe B; 03-25-2020, 10:42 AM.

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                              #15
                              You're completely disregarding the real issues here and that is your prerogative. Banning me won't change anything but if you must then you must.

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