Fake PAB "Deumer". Who knows this?

[Schneckel1989]

Hi guys.
Here we have a copy of a hollow PAB to the maker Wilhelm Deumer Lüdenscheid.
Somebody knows who make this copy, or where it comes from?
For me it was not 100 % clear for the first time, this piece its a copy, but now i knows better.
This piece is nonmagnetic, hinge and hook also not magnetic, only the pin is magnetic.
Maby any Member know this piece or see one before and have any information.
Thanks in advance

[rbminis]

What makes you think it is fake?
Ralph.

[Medals45]

Ralph are you testing the poster?

[Thomas Durante]

Hmmm, this one looks OK to me. Detail are good and finish seems correct, along with the hardware setup. Any additional pics of the hinge and catch with the pin out of the way?

Tom

[Chet Sowersby]

I can't say that I'm buy into the fake assertion with this one.

Chet

[Schneckel1989]

Hmmm, this one looks OK to me. Detail are good and finish seems correct, along with the hardware setup. Any additional pics of the hinge and catch with the pin out of the way?

Tom

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[Schneckel1989]

Hmmm, this one looks OK to me. Detail are good and finish seems correct, along with the hardware setup. Any additional pics of the hinge and catch with the pin out of the way?

Tom

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[Chet Sowersby]

COA's for copies now? Well I'll be dipped!

Chet

[rbminis]

For the record, none of the three different examples I have from this maker have the rounded upper corners on the hinge plate.
Also, I believe the tool mark on the pin is different.
Ralph.

[Chet Sowersby]

So what is the final take on the OPs badge?

Chet

[Schneckel1989]

For me its the same situation like before.
The badge looks good to me, but i have this copy paper.
The needle is for sure not a original one.
I hope, some day i find a book where i can see a badge like this as a original PAB. 😂 Until I'm not 100% sure thats an original, it have to wait in the last row in my collection. Thanks to all for your opinions.

[Medals45]

Taking a second look at this PAB and I see that there is what looks like a daisy in the grass field. I don't believe they have copied this maker to date.

John

[rbminis]

Taking a second look at this PAB and I see that there is what looks like a daisy in the grass field. I don't believe they have copied this maker to date.

John

Yes they have. A number of times.
Ralph.