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    #16
    William, et. al.,

    Three thousand dollars for this badge, in my opinion, is a price that is too good to be true. It's meant to appeal to the 'oh, what a great deal' shoppers. BEWARE. If this badge was a real one, the price would be closer to $10k.

    These gold badges with the top hook, were presented, mit etui, by Hitler, Himmler, and Guderian (sp?). I think the number of presentation CCCs was around 100. I may be wrong on that number. The authority on these badges is Manfred Dorr. He wrote a superb book on these clasps, and I think a second revised version is in the works.

    The black back plate on these badges is secured with a single rivet. The badge you presented shows crimp marks, securing the plate. Totally wrong. These special CCCs were made only by Juncker, but no MM is on the badge. I think we all agree that CCCs are only made of zinc. However, the presentation clasp is made of Buntmetal, with gold plating, not a wash, as you find on the regular CCCs. You will find CCCs with a gold wash, but they are not the special presentation pieces.

    Here are some images you can use for comparison.
    regards,

    Mark



    Last edited by mmiller; 04-14-2005, 09:00 AM.
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      #17
      thanks

      Hello,

      Thank you all and especially for that information, I really appreciate it.

      William Kramer
      Please visit my site: https://wehrmacht-militaria.com/

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        #18
        mark, is that your gold ccc? can't say as i have EVER seen one that nice before. WOW... and thanks for the pics regardless, something i have needed in my archive for a while.



        Originally posted by mmiller
        William, et. al.,

        Three thousand dollars for this badge, in my opinion, is a price that is too good to be true. It's meant to appeal to the 'oh, what a great deal' shoppers. BEWARE. If this badge was a real one, the price would be closer to $10k.

        These gold badges with the top hook, were presented, mit etui, by Hitler, Himmler, and Guderian (sp?). I think the number of presentation CCCs was around 100. I may be wrong on that number. The authority on these badges is Manfred Dorr. He wrote a superb book on these clasps, and I think a second revised version is in the works.

        The black back plate on these badges is secured with a single rivet. The badge you presented shows crimp marks, securing the plate. Totally wrong. These special CCCs were made only by Juncker, but no MM is on the badge. I think we all agree that CCCs are only made of zinc. However, the presentation clasp is made of Buntmetal, with gold plating, not a wash, as you find on the regular CCCs. You will find CCCs with a gold wash, but they are not the special presentation pieces.

        Here are some images you can use for comparison.
        regards,

        Mark



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          #19
          Pieces like that you can only dream about whether Hitler personally handed it to a soldier. Kind of makes your hair stand up just looking at it ... great piece

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            #20
            Excellent CCC, Mark And cased too

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