Proficiency Badge

[Cavalier]

Before I pull the trigger on this, I was wondering what you guys felt about it.

http://imgur.com/vIcJw1e
http://imgur.com/x7vQFI9

Some things look right. Others not so much.

[militarymania]

I believe that authentic examples of this badge have bent over pins to affix the Sig Runen & not dome headed brads,,,thumbdown

[Bob Hritz]

Save your money for an original.

Bob Hritz

[Johnny Kitara]

[mloppkit]

Hi Cavalier,

See the following threads on originals:

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ficiency+badge

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ficiency+badge

There is some good information in these posts by expert member "FrenchVolunteer". Be aware however that recent information has come to light since these threads were posted that suggest that the 'Von Morenberg' version may have been officially awarded and is authentic- ie the one posted was recently reported as having been obtained directly from a Norwegion vet,

Cheers,
Michael




Norwegian Vets badge in silver- seems to be the same as the "Von Morenberg" badge

[Cavalier]

I believe that authentic examples of this badge have bent over pins to affix the Sig Runen & not dome headed brads,,,thumbdown

Those had me wondering too. Although this here gives an example of an authentic one that used rivets:
http://ailsby-collection.blogspot.co...nes-badge.html

Though it doesn't have the same proof stamp in the middle.

Thought it was worth a shot.

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

sorry for the delay, and yes, is is bad.

This fantasy bad - not even trying to fool people - is part of a extensive family of fakes/repros from Poland.

You can buy (sold as copy i must point out) this exact same badge in bronze, silver and gold (sic) for 15 euros each on M321.

For the WAF archives, front and back pictures.

See You

Vince

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

courtesy of seller uboth96 from M321.

This new extensive family of fakes/repros has a few variants.

On this badge, the back is very bad (pin, catch, rivets), like the runes on the front (the horizontal line is too large/tall) and the lines on the sunwheel are too slim).

See You

Vince

[FrenchVolunteer]

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[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

The "Gahr" model is a "pimped" "München 9" fake/repro, from similar "Polish descent" as you can see below.

The main difference with a "München 9" is that the runes are far better.

You can find "München 9" fakes/repros on M321 and elsewhere for around 30 euros.

See You

Vince

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

the Von Moremberg and the "silver" GL said to have been awarded to a Norvegian vet are FAKES from the Niemann type.

Many features are bad on the Niemann fakes, including the "short" ends of the branchs of the sunwheel.

The silver GL posted by miloppkit is known since 2012, posted by member Vuoripiru. Some other pictures of that one below.

Too bad for the guy who bought the story of the Norvegian vet...
Niemann fakes flooded the market at the start of the 2000, i have at least a dozen of them in my archives...
i gave the name to this family because Mr. Niemann authenticated a few ones (i'm not implying that he was behind this family of fakes).

See You

Vince

PS : the Alamy pictures are showing an original bronze model, lot 3118, HH 53, sold on October 16, 2007 for 5000 euros (+ fees).

[manu1972]

Hi guys, since we are talking here about this controversial Medal, does anyone have any pictures of some authentic example undoubtedly? Because the truth is that I after many years in this, could not recognize a fake of an original.
Many thanks to all.

Manuel.

[manu1972]

Hi,

the Von Moremberg and the "silver" GL said to have been awarded to a Norvegian vet are FAKES from the Niemann type.

Many features are bad on the Niemann fakes, including the "short" ends of the branchs of the sunwheel.

The silver GL posted by miloppkit is known since 2012, posted by member Vuoripiru. Some other pictures of that one below.

Too bad for the guy who bought the story of the Norvegian vet...
Niemann fakes flooded the market at the start of the 2000, i have at least a dozen of them in my archives...
i gave the name to this family because Mr. Niemann authenticated a few ones (i'm not implying that he was behind this family of fakes).

See You

Vince

PS : the Alamy pictures are showing an original bronze model, lot 3118, HH 53, sold on October 16, 2007 for 5000 euros (+ fees).

Hello. Is this plate which has only put the back original? do you have a picture of the front? A mystery will always be for me this award.

Thank you.

Manuel.

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

PS : the Alamy pictures are showing an original bronze model, lot 3118, HH 53, sold on October 16, 2007 for 5000 euros (+ fees).

see post #5 (Alamy pictures), and the dozen of other topics on the WAF in which originals are posted, for example :

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=863780

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=847208

See You

Vince

[manu1972]

Hi, FrenchVolunteer.
Thank you for you help.

Your Truly

Manuel