Stone mint Bronze PABs - what do they look like?

[Tim Curley]

I am assuming it is cupal. There are 2 very slight nicks on the edges which reveal a silver base.

[Vertigo]

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Any idea what maker would this be?

[Ludwig-K]

Very unique badge in a finish I haven't quite seen. Imo this is a period piece, but I am unable to put my finger on which maker it is. Perhaps our esteemed members can help shed some light.

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Any idea what maker would this be?

[Graeme]

Was wondering what a bronze PAB with full finish would look like...

There's one that showed on a recent auction and it looks "too good to be true" but I could be wrong...

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regards
Graeme

[Graeme]

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Any idea what maker would this be?

The design is of an unmarked Frank & Reif in my opinion.

But as already mentioned, the finish looks a little strange, and I have not seen that flat stock catch on another of these before.
I am pretty sure that this exact badge was sold on a main dealer site in the recent past.

best regards
Graeme

[BROBS]

it looks repainted to me but I am far from an expert.
looks more like copper.

-Brian

[Thomas Durante]

Hi guys,

I too don't like the look of the bronze finish on that unmarked Frank and Reif and feel it is refinished. Here is one of mine that I consider pretty minty and what the original bronze finish should like like on these.

Graeme, good eye on the catch. I agree that its not one we typically see on unmarked F&Rs and can't find another one like it in my files. The catch itself has good traits on it for being wartime IMO, but could very well be a clever repair and was refinished to hide this fact.

Tom

[Vertigo]

Hi Thomas

Thanks for showing us your PAB as the others have.

It looks too good to be true. Could it have been a silver or bronze PAB that lost all its finish and then underwent a massive clean up such that the underlying copper is now showing and looking so clean as it is now?

I mean, the color does look copperish and copper is sometimes applied to help silver stick better.

[BROBS]

You can see paint chipping off the pin.

Tom your badge has finish like I would expect to see.
-Brian