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    Gentlemen,

    Picked this guy up out of the woodwork there in Germany today and am curious who the maker is. I find it odd that such a stunning badge isn't marked but I guess they can't all be marked. Its in really nice shape with just light wear to the high points that allows the copper color to shine through. I really like it but have no idea who the maker is though as badges are not my thing. I would appreciate some assistance with an identification if possible. Matt
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      Hi Matt

      Very nice piece. Maker is Wiedmann. The copper you see a a copper coating they used on the zink to preserve the silver finish a bit better (so no cupal here).
      Kind regards,
      Giel


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        #4
        Hi Matt,

        as already written a very nice zinc IAB in E. Ferd Wiedmann design.

        BR
        Sven

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          Giel VW:
          no cupal here and Giel is right!

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            #6
            Thank you gentlemen! I wasn't sure if it was CupAl or not, Im not a medal guy but I saw it and picked it up. Seems odd that they would copper coat a zink badge.. why not just make a higher quality one from the start

            Matt

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              Because the higher quality metals were used toward the war effort, that is why the base metal of badges and medals deteriorated-

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                #8
                Still a desirable piece IMO. I have one as well.

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                  Originally posted by afrikasandman View Post
                  Thank you gentlemen! I wasn't sure if it was CupAl or not
                  Hi Matt,

                  A good way to tell the difference would be to weigh it, Cupal IABs are about 1/2 the weight of zinkers.

                  As John says, starting around 1941/1942, copper and brass began to be rationed for the war effort and thererfore zinc because the primary base metal for most combat and qualification badges. There was still a desire for good looking awards, hence some makers using a thin layer of copper or brass plating over the zinc base metal so that the finish would adhere better.

                  Tom
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                    #10
                    I appreciate the info everyone, always something new to learn in this hobby. Matt

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