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    Opinions - Allgemeines Sturmabzeichen Entnazifiziert

    Hello ,
    Can anyone tell me if these are real ?
    Regards , Kris .









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    Hi Kris,


    both are good, but heavily damaged as you might have noticed.


    Regards,


    Daniel

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      #3
      Both original!

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        #4
        Hi Kris,

        Daniel is right ofcourse, both fine originals, just denazified and the B&NL is missing its catch unfortunately.

        Tom
        If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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          #5
          Originally posted by Nordmark View Post
          Hi Kris,


          both are good, but heavily damaged as you might have noticed.


          Regards,


          Daniel
          Thank you Daniel for the answer . I know that these are damaged , and finds this pity , but I have not paid much for , 40 euros a piece .
          Regards , Kris .

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            #6
            Both original but they lost their historical value.


            Regards, Wim
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              #7
              Originally posted by Wim Vangossum View Post
              Both original but they lost their historical value.
              Hi Wim,

              I am surprised to hear you say this as I have always felt that denazified badges were a big part of our hobby with good historical context. Especially when I think that the most logical way a badge was denazified was by the recipient himself. Ofcourse we cannot be sure when the denazification occurred, but with all things being equal then I tend to believe that these were combat-worn badges and that the recipient wanted to continue to wear the badge after May 1945. Or perhaps a member of the Bundeswehr who wanted to wear his hard earned badges before the new 1957-version examples came out.

              These were combat-worn badges IMO. Hard to imagine someone picking one up from a warehouse after the war and denazify it. Especially an American souvenier hunter; to him I would think the bigger the swastika the better! But anything is possible I guess.

              Tom
              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                #8
                Thanks for all the answers .
                Regards , Kris .

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                  Kris
                  As stated, both GABs are original. The first one shown is a Deumer, and the second one is a B&N L. Neither of these are common badges; ie these two makers did not mass produce GABs. Obviously, as noted, both examples are denazified substantially reducing their value. The B&N also has its clasp missing.
                  JJS

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                    #10
                    Hi Kris

                    Interesting badges. Both look original.

                    The first badge (apart from the swas missing) is in great shape

                    regards
                    Graeme

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thomas Durante View Post
                      Hi Wim,

                      I am surprised to hear you say this as I have always felt that denazified badges were a big part of our hobby with good historical context. Especially when I think that the most logical way a badge was denazified was by the recipient himself. Ofcourse we cannot be sure when the denazification occurred, but with all things being equal then I tend to believe that these were combat-worn badges and that the recipient wanted to continue to wear the badge after May 1945. Or perhaps a member of the Bundeswehr who wanted to wear his hard earned badges before the new 1957-version examples came out.

                      These were combat-worn badges IMO. Hard to imagine someone picking one up from a warehouse after the war and denazify it. Especially an American souvenier hunter; to him I would think the bigger the swastika the better! But anything is possible I guess.

                      Tom



                      Hi Tom,


                      Maybe was "historical not valuable" a bit to harsh from my side. I guess it has all to do by the way or vision that I have on collecting Third Reich artifarcts. For me the Darwinistic vision to the world, like seen by the Nazi's,was at the same time the most unique, cruel and criminal way of buiding up a humain society. A kind of society that never was seen before, or after in the history of the world. In my opinion it is not compareble with anything else in the history of the human race. And that's precisely why I find it so important to safe keeping all the artifarcts from that abnormaly period in the history that only last a bit more then one decade. And that's why I don't pay much attention to denazified collectibles or nazi things that are signed by GI's (like flags) etc..

                      But you're right: All these things ,including GI - signed flags and denazified awards have their important role in history.


                      Regards, Wim
                      Freedom is not for Free

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