Hollowback silver IAB

[Mark S.]

With all the great detective work being done, and the resulting progress in identification, I was thinking that maybe this IAB might find itself a place in the heirarchy of production to an identified maker.

The badge is finished in a lustrous silver, and the swaz is polished out so it absolutely gleams. My thoughts are that the badge is probably made in high quality zinc, judging from the thickness (compared to buntmetal versions) and the simple soldering of the catch without a plate.

The badge came from a grouping, and was a second of two identical badges. The one that stayed with the grouping was in one of those "swirley-colored" boxes. This leads me to believe that both were most likely privately purchased.

Enjoy!

[Mark S.]

I tried so hard to catch the reflective finish of the swaz..my lame pictures really dont do it justice.

[Mark S.]

a picture of the reverse. I never really understood the necessity of a mirror image stamp with zinc badges. I can only guess that it made for a better obverse strike.

[Mark S.]

Here is a close up of the catch with the clean soldering. This image also divulges some of the other finishing characteristics from the manufacturing process.

Thanks for looking!

[Yuri D.]

I don't like this badge because the eagle has a dopey look on its face. Dopey looks are a no-no in my book.

Yuri

[Philippe DB]

Hi Mark,


First let me say that there is no doubt what so ever that these badges are original.

Like Yuri wrote not the nicest eagle but that's really all that can be hold against this badge. The maker of these badges is unknown.

The only thing that I was able to find out in relation to these IAB's is the following.

1. They were made by a company that probably had some relations with Hymmen. The design of these badges is related and if you think this eagles is ugly wait untill you see the Hymmen eagle.

2. The maker of these IAB's is the same maker responsible for the second pattern Daisy PAB's. The setup evolution between these two badges is identical.

3. This maker only made hollow badges both in Buntmetall and in zinc.

Here is the early buntmetal brother of you zinc example.

KR
Philippe

[Philippe DB]

reverse

[Master3477]

I agree with Philippe,


here two of my pieces to compare.

KR
Sven

[Master3477]

reverse

[Master3477]

No2

[Master3477]

No2 reverse

[Mark S.]

Wow, great looking badges guys! Looking at the buntmetal one shown by Phillipe, I am wondering now if mine is not zinc after all. The finishing technique on the reverse is identical. I also have never seen such a highly burnished badge made out of zinc. It would also explain the minute amount of solder holding the hardware on.

Regarding the finish, not just the swaz has a mirror finish, but also highlights like the wing edges and the ridges on the oak leaves are bright. It is obvious to me that this badge was finished in some type of reflective surface coating, and then silvered.

Yuri, as for the dopey face, I know what you are saying. When I bought it, I was a little concerned, but it really didnt compare to the fine detail on the rest of the badge, as well as the construction and finish. I chalked up as a minor production flaw.

[Philippe DB]

@Sven, thats first example is very interesting, what is that growing out of the first upper oakleave on the right side, A SECOND ACORN

@ Mark, IMO your examples is indeed a zinker and based upon what I learned the technique of burnished highlights is much more often encountered on high quality zinkers than on buntmetall badges. It's also a fairytale that you will never find directy soldered on hinges or catches on zinkers.

KR
Philippe

[Yuri D.]

Sorry Mark, my earlier statement was a mistake. I should have researched my records more carefully.

Yuri

[Mark S.]

@Sven, thats first example is very interesting, what is that growing out of the first upper oakleave on the right side, A SECOND ACORN

@ Mark, IMO your examples is indeed a zinker and based upon what I learned the technique of burnished highlights is much more often encountered on high quality zinkers than on buntmetall badges. It's also a fairytale that you will never find directy soldered on hinges or catches on zinkers.

KR
Philippe

I saw that too..I thought it was a goiter.. (just kidding Sven)

regarding the solder..I know of many instances of catches directly soldered to zink badges, I was refering to the delicate nature of this soldering more than anything. It isnt uncommon to see an overabundance of solder in these types of situations. It didnt happen on this one.

Thanks for the input.

(no apology necessary Yuri )