Need help on these two badges

[militarymania]

the more I look at them,,the more my eyes get crossed! would like to know if original or repros...thanks to all...Robert

[militarymania]

reverse of badges...

[Neusilber]

First is a two dot fake!!

Tyler

[Panzercracker]

The IAB is a fake too.

--Ken

[Antonio Scapini]

I agree, both badges are fake. The ISA is an attempt to copy the Mayer one.

[Aurora68]

yes, both

[beufighter]

afraid both are bad fakes

[militarymania]

many thanks for all your help gentlemen,...Robert

[militarymania]

pray tell,,,what is this "two dot" fake?....thanks again,,,Robert

[Greg]

pray tell,,,what is this "two dot" fake?....thanks again,,,Robert

Robert,

Take a look at posts 10-12 here http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=102019 The "two dot" fake is an early fake based (sort of) on the Juncker design; it's been around for a while. It has an incorrect very thin roundwire catch, a block hinge, the area to the left of the turret is often not cut out (but sometimes it is) and the wreath is usually deformed in that area, and at the bottom of the grass area are the two raised dots.

Best,
Greg

[militarymania]

Eureka!...I have found it!...I now see the "two dot" fake indicators,,,Many thanks for pointing this out and for the link on this...Robert

[Graeme]

Hi Robert

I am sure you will find similar copies, to compare to yours, in the fake PAB (pointed out by Greg) and fake IAB threads in the fakes area of this forum.

regards
Graeme