IAB silver bag

[Allan P.]

Here it is.

Certainly appear to be differences, especially on the pin and catch assembly.

Just noticed the reverse is faintly marked L/61, Friedrich Linden?

What do you think Frank?

Allan

[Allan P.]

reverse, if better photos/scans are needed, please let me know.

Allan

[kokstok]

I have two IAB packages and one in a cardboard box i will post the packages to compare.

gr. René

[kokstok]

reverse

[kokstok]

front RS

[kokstok]

reverse RS

[Allan P.]

OH NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a idiot. Posted the wrong badge!!!!

I've got two IAB in cellophane packets and posted the wrong one

Your right Frank, one for the bin.

Allan

[Allan P.]

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[Master3477]

Here it is.

Certainly appear to be differences, especially on the pin and catch assembly.

Just noticed the reverse is faintly marked L/61, Friedrich Linden?

What do you think Frank?

Allan

Hello

the L/61 is totally ok. I have the same one in my collection.

KR
Sven

[Allan P.]

for the record the IAB marked L/61 in its cellophane packet

Allan

[MH184]

Thats the one Phil like I had, good memory ! And indeed the cello packet is a fake too.

Allan's L/61 packet I'd like to see properly and I can give you my opinion on that too.

If the LDO box is in the middle of the obverse 'box' when viewed plan wise and seen through the packet it will be a fake 99.9% of the time, if not 100% really, I say 99.9% because mishaps, misprints are liable.....but in every example I'm aware of or seen it's been a fake and wouldn't delude myself otherwise to be safe.

The LDO box as described above should be a couple of mm's below the top line of the obverse outline of the box, level or above.

As for Allan's, Sven's and Rene's packets (tan Oct 1st types).....well for the more dubious of us they are post war ink designations on genuine packets. But, there is always the reasonable chance they are genuine (see first post of mine on this thread) used in the sense of make do with what you have, it's makes some sense as they are devoid of designation.

And it also is a good ploy of the fakers too !!!

I have my thoughts on these, but there is no way of telling for sure unless they were 'tested' i.e the ink on the desigantion.

I don't have the time at the moment, but I'll take a closer look at these later in the week.


Kind regards,

Marcus

[Tom Yanacek]

Dear Allan,

May I mention that the IAB in the cello packet is highly questionable? It is in my opinion a fake which tries to look very worn. The interesting part is, the exceptionally extensive wear is ALWAYS in exactly the same positions for these fakes. They come with bogus maker marks too.
Just check these areas for reference: flattened bayonet tip and flattened wreathband "pearls".

Hello to all,
I agree with Frank. These very crude looking Infantry Assault Badges, and the cellophane packets are fakes in my opinion. I would never want one in my collection. They cannot be explained away as "late-war". Late-war badges may have been lacking in the quality of base metal and finish, but they were still fairly well made. I can't see the Germans producing anything this poor in quality. BTW: I remember about three years ago, Detlev was selling these on his website. They were the same badges and the same cellophane packets, and he had a number of them available. I think they were about $65. at that time.
I do like the L/61 Infantry Badge that Allan posted though. That is a very nice badge.
Best regards! Tom

[Frank Heukemes]

Detlev joined a discussion about these IABs two years ago and said he will cease to sell them. And so he did, never saw another one at his site.

Of course these cannot be explained in any way. Mass produced "wear" at the exact same places is just impossible.