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    GAB, any idea of maker, please?

    Does anyone know the maker of this massive GAB, or unknown maker number?

    Robert
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      #3
      That is a great looking badge. Unknown maker #14 I think (don't have the book with me, but definitely still an unknown maker.

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        #4
        Thank you for your help. You are exactly right. It's on page 318 in Frank's book, just found it after a long study.

        Thanks again,
        Robert

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          #5
          One of my favourite design, a beautiful badge!

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            #6
            This particular badge was discussed a while back, consensus was that it is a well made fake. I handled this piece at Weitze some weeks ago, and it was indeed a weird piece. I would not feel comfortable owning this badge.


            Regards,



            Daniel

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              #7
              Originally posted by Nordmark View Post
              This particular badge was discussed a while back, consensus was that it is a well made fake. I handled this piece at Weitze some weeks ago, and it was indeed a weird piece. I would not feel comfortable owning this badge.


              Regards,



              Daniel
              Really?? That's disconcerning. Looks good from here, I'll have to dig up the old discussion. But I respect your opinion, especially if you handled it in hand

              Thanks Daniel, I fell for it I guess

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                #8
                Hi Chad,


                I´m not saying it is 100% a fake, but the look was a little concerning. Here is the thread with a few more excellent pictures:

                http://wehrmacht-awards.com/forums/s...d.php?t=550118

                I am still not sure what to make of it, but I decided not to buy it.



                Regards,


                Daniel

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                  #9
                  To error on the side of caution is always the safest thing to do, although I'd like to see it inhand to decide for myself. Thank you, gentlemen, for your valued opinions.

                  Robert

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                    Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
                    To error on the side of caution is always the safest thing to do, although I'd like to see it inhand to decide for myself. Thank you, gentlemen, for your valued opinions.

                    Robert
                    No, I stopped the order. I don't know if I want to gamble on this piece. I've lost crosses by sending them back through the German mailing system from the US. It's not worth the trouble or the loss.

                    On a side note I looked very carefully at the photos in that link provided. The silver plating doesn't cover the solder either on the hinge or the catch. That's not a good sign, especially when Frank makes the statement in his book that both are covered on the originals.

                    Robert

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                      #11
                      Originally posted by Robert P. View Post
                      To error on the side of caution is always the safest thing to do, although I'd like to see it inhand to decide for myself. Thank you, gentlemen, for your valued opinions.

                      Robert

                      Hi Robert,


                      wise words indeed. Maybe I will regret that I chickened out and it is indeed a good and rare Neusilber GAB. Keep us updated please.


                      Regards,


                      Daniel

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                        #12
                        Hi guys,

                        Robert, this one looks fine to me. I like the level of detail and especially the reverse hardware. I also like the wear pattern and the patina, I guess I am just not seeing the red flags that you guys are.

                        Tom
                        If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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                          Tom,

                          Thank you for your opinion. It's much appreciated. And you know it means a lot to me. As you know it's hard to purchase a badge when there is negative feedback on it. But, you've turned that around. I guess the only real way to discern the badge's authenticity is to look at it inhand and also provide some very clear photos of the details here on the forum when it arrives so that others can look at it also. I'm going to take a chance with this.

                          Thanks again,
                          Robert

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                            #14
                            Hi Robert

                            A tricky one imo. First off the obverse finish jumps out as a little strange. From the more detailed pics in the link, you can see obvious soldered areas around the hinge and catch, these are usually very neat.

                            And although I have seen another of these with lots of burrs on the reverse around the cutouts, the majority of these that show up have clean cutouts.

                            It would be interesting to find the weight and measurements for this one.

                            regards
                            Graeme

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                              #15
                              No problem Robert, and I look forward to you getting it in hand and taking some better closeups for us. I have seen plenty of these Unknown #14s with rough cutouts, and actually is something I like to see on badges because it is a sure sign of being die-struck & trimmed compared to many cast fakes that have soft edges. And of course this is a function of how meticulous the individual worker was at cleaning the badge after it was trimmed out, some obviously were more careful then others.

                              Here are a few more #14s with rough cutouts for the record.

                              Tom

                              p.s., very glad to still see you around my friend. I thought you were out of the hobby for good about a year or 2 ago.

                              Tom
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                              If it doesn't have a hinge and catch, I'm not interested......well, maybe a little

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