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    #16
    Fake Souval (casting):
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    Cheers, Frank

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      #17
      reverse
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      Cheers, Frank

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        #18
        detail
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        Cheers, Frank

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          #19
          mark/hinge
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          Cheers, Frank

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            #20
            Fakes

            Thanks guys, this is very helpful...Would love to see more! John

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              #21
              Originally posted by Frank H
              George, I would buy that IAB (first post in this thread) anytime for the price of a fake. Before you guys jump on me, I know what the majority of BSW IABs look like (crimped in). But there are variants. I donĀ“t think this is a fake.
              Dear Frank,

              I also don't know what it is but it for sure isn't a BSW. Here are an early and a late crimped in BSW. I think you'll agree that the badge posted by George didn't come out of the same die.

              KR
              Philippe
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                #22
                reverse
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                  #23
                  Isn't it possible......

                  ......that in light of our conversations concerning other badges with different charachteristics, attributed to the same maker(in this case the unresolved BH Mayer question), that this could be the case with the image of the BSW marked IAB that George posted? Could it be a variant of BSW?

                  I really don't know that it is a variant or not, but it looks like a good badge on the monitor. When I first looked at it I thought how nicely they had gotten the zinc streaks and absorption to look on a fake.

                  Perhaps this is a example of post-war manufacture, made for the G.I. souvenir market? Maybe a unknown maker badge with a phony mm applied at a later date?

                  At this point, I would agree with Frank that another, closer look should be taken at this IAB of George's.

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                  Bruce

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                    #24
                    I think GeorgeĀ“s badge is a Wernstein with Wernstein variant hinge. The original badge is for some reason stamped BSW. ThatĀ“s all I can say. Looking at the finish alone (stripey zinc fading) makes me disbelieve that this is a fake.

                    Here is such a Wernstein with variant hinge. (DonĀ“t know where I ahve this pic from, hope you do not mind, copyright owner, if yes, I will remove it):
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                    Cheers, Frank

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                      #25
                      obverse, everything matches with GeorgeĀ“s badge, except for the catch and maker mark.
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                        #26
                        I thought the same thing about the streaky finish...usually a characteristic of a good zinc badge w/ slight deterioration to the finish. My vote is "real" too...although I have no explanation for the MM

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                          #27
                          Hi,

                          A cast GWL.

                          Regards
                          Mike K

                          Obverse...
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                          Mike

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                            #28
                            the reverse....

                            Note that it has a small and poorly formed catch - I've seen these sold on major dealer sites as genuine.

                            Regards
                            Mike K
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                            Mike

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                              #29
                              Here is one similar to the ones shown by Den and Roman, except this one has the swaz joined to the rifle.
                              Last edited by Eric Stahlhut; 06-04-2008, 08:49 PM.

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                                #30
                                The impressions on the wreath section from the stamping process are not as pronounced on the reverse.
                                Last edited by Eric Stahlhut; 06-04-2008, 08:49 PM.

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