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    FLL CCC in Bronze opinions please

    Hi All,

    Ok I finally got the use of a decent camera, hence the rush to post pics of those items I'm not 100% sure of

    Same again: Whats the opinion?
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      #3
      Finally: Pin open
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        #4
        Sorry, mate...

        ... but this is a fake...! Have a look at the following thread for reference pics of characteristics of genuine FLL clasps: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=53273
        Cheers,
        Mike G
        Mikael G.

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          #5
          Originally posted by mgidhagen
          ... but this is a fake...! Have a look at the following thread for reference pics of characteristics of genuine FLL clasps: http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=53273
          Cheers,
          Mike G
          Thanks Mike ,

          Other than the crimping of the backplate I don't see what is different from a 2nd pattern. Could you elaborate or if the "pointers" are sensitive could you pm me the details?

          I'm not disagreeing, just trying to understand why

          regards,

          Angus

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            #6
            Hi Angus !

            I have to agree with the Swede . I dont like this FLL CCC with that type of incrimp of the small plate .

            Jan Arne

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              #7
              Same here. Sorry Angus but this FLL tyüe CCC is generally regarded as being fake. Besides the backplate crimping I think that if you look at the MM you will find that the vertical stroke is straight and not curved as on originals.

              Skip
              Last edited by skip; 05-21-2004, 12:14 PM.
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                Details for comparison...

                Angus,
                I know that this can be a bit hard without actually having the actual badges side by side, but the dead-giveaway is the way the backing plate is crimped-in. Other details to examine are the eagle's design, the swastika, and the "FLL" in circles mark (where the Ls should have a slight curvature). Furthermore, the badge in question here seems to be flat, whereas all of the FLL clasps I have seen have been quite vaulted. I hope this helps...!

                Fake FLL CCC markings:


                And here is a good one:


                Regards,
                Mike
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                  #9
                  Thanks guys!

                  Excellent info as always .

                  Mike, your maker mark explanation has convinced me its bad. Definately straight letters!

                  Just for future note: The badge is vaulted and the block hinge has been crimped in place but the catch soldered. I guess the fakers have evolved a little.

                  Looks like there may be another one for the fakes gallery soon if I can't get a refund.

                  Thanks again & best regards,

                  Angus

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