Assault badges for your review ...

[Tim Curley]

These fake "AS" in a triangle PABs are different on the front from the originals.

And on their backs, they are drastically different as follows, original vs fake:

1. Logo just below the hinge vs logo just above the catch

2. Back is semi-hollow and concave vs back is solid and flat

3. Hinge is a ball type vs hinge is gate-type hinge

[Blued]

Guys, are we sure on the GAB on the left. From the photos, I actually think it is based on a BH Mayer design, but I'm not too keen on it. I haven't seen this design with that type of hardware. Especially look how sharp the corners are of the hinge base. When I've seen these in the past, I have stayed away.

Worth a second look, even if I'm wrong.

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Kev,

The IAB is a good Friedrich Linden, not much finish remaining unfortunately.

The PABs are both common fakes, and we can see this fake design with other bogus marks on it such as Hermann Aurich, MH, Friedrich Keller, etc.

Tom

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Chad,

I think both GABs are good, 1 is a BH Mayer and the other an S&H. But not worth the asking price of $150 each due to the lack of finish IMO.

Tom

[Thomas Durante]

Hi Chad, I see what you are saying with the BH Mayer example, but I think BH Mayer was a maker that used that type of sharp-based sheetmetal hinge. Angled shots of the hinge and catch would be helpful here, but the look of the base metal of the badge itself looks really good and would be surprised if this one turns out to be bad.

Tom

[Kev G]

I will post close-ups tonight so that we get certainty. Will shots of about 45 degress of hinge & catch be OK?

[Kev G]

... here we go, front- and backside of No. 1 ...

[Kev G]

... No. 2 ...

[Kev G]

... and the angled shot of the backsides ...

I hope these pictures are OK for the experts to discuss these two badges.

Thanks!

[Blued]

Something interesting I just noticed in Frank's book. On page 144, he shows a square base to a sheet metal hinge, but when you look at the different examples in the book for BH Mayer or F&R, they either have no base or the base is cut a 45 degree angle. What am I missing?

I have done searches on the forum and in some databases, and do agree it's real, finding this type of set-up. I guess maybe I was thrown off by the book's pictures?

I wasn't good at finding Waldo as a kid, so maybe that has something to do with it?

[Kev G]

Hi guys,

sorry for my late response - first of all thanks for all your support, it is much appreciated.

About the maker question: did the angled shots help to determine these or will you need further pictures?

Please let me know as I am curious to understand the makers of these for sure.

Further, one has more finishing left, the other has not. Is this the sign of simply more wear or were this different production types?

Thanks again for enlighting me!

[Kev G]

Thanks to the help from Giel - thanks a bunch - he also confirmed the makers again like before:

1) BH Mayer / F&R and
2) Sch&Hö

Great cooperation here on WAF - it is much appreciated!

Thanks!!!