Information on early IAB's

[IanC]

Friends,

Hope you can help, I am interested in adding an early, circa 1939 - 42 silver Infantry Assault Badge to my collection.

My questions is when I see one for sale either on e-stand or on a dealers site are there any pointers that I could look out for that will indicate that it is an early war piece?

I appreciate that this is quite a large question but any help or pointers to threads (I did search before posting this question but couldn't find anything of relevance) would be much appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Ian

[Graeme]

Hi Ian

With many IABs it is quite difficult to be precise in when they were manufactured. But what is considered true, is that early badges were made from better quality metals, such as nickel silver and buntmetal. Once these materials dried up as the war went on, zinc was used much more, and certainly, later war badges were predominently zinc...

So if you want an early badge, it would be safer to avoid zinc badges, and preferably go for a badge where you can see a progression from quality metals through to zinc, which would give the indication of a longer production run..

An example would be Wurster, you can find solid buntmetal and zinc variations, both marked for Wurster.

regards
Graeme

[IanC]

Hi Graeme,

Thank you - that is exactly what I needed to know.

Best Regards

Ian

[IanC]

.....and so 18 months later, I think I have finally found a nice example.

A big thanks to Graeme who patiently answered all my newbie questions.


All feedback good and bad always welcome. Several photo's to follow.


Regards

Ian

[IanC]

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[IanC]

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[Graeme]

Hi Ian

Have you tested the reverse with acetone to see if the finish holds up.

For me it just looks a little strange.

regards
Graeme

[Chet Sowersby]

Ian,
It's a good one but I agree with Graeme about the finish. On another note, your initial posting indicated you were looking for an early war example. This example is a zincer. If you want an early badge then find a tombac or nickle silver example. Then there would be no doubts as to the time frame.

Chet

[münster]

Hi

I sold the badge to Ian, I found nothing wrong whatsoever with the finish but if that is the opinion I will take it backe and acetone it for safe measure.

Best,
Dion

[Nordmark]

These ShuCo´s usually hold their finish well. It looks quite ok to me.


Regards,


Daniel

[Graeme]

These ShuCo´s usually hold their finish well. It looks quite ok to me.


Regards,


Daniel

Hi Daniel

I agree some SHuCos do hold their finish well, but imo the finish on those is different from the finish shown here. This is more like a matt wash.

Here are several points

1) It is good that Dion has replied and offered to check the finish

2) Pics on forums can be misleading

3) It took a while for someone to comment in this thread, and that can happen sometimes when a badge is not exactly textbook.

4) The obverse of this badge is far from mint, yet the back "appears" to be mint.

5) Ian, can you check around the hinge and catch to compare any finish you see around those areas with what we see on the reverse.

6) Can someone post a pic of another SHuCo with the same reverse finish, so that we may compare.

7) If possible could we please see a large detailed pic of the following area.

cheers
Graeme

[münster]

You and your finishes Graeme

http://www.mdmilitaria.com/component...eafce01ea5.jpg

Click to blow it up, these are taken with a portable studio.

I found no alarm bells in hand at all, I know it sounds strange because Iam actually preet weird but I call the finish seeping into the reverse butthole finish , I call it this because it seeps into the cracks.

I have had several with this finish.

The reverse matched the obverse like a champ.

I can be wrong so I would like Ian to acetone it.

Anyways, its good to post back in badges !

Best,
dion

[Graeme]

You and your finishes Graeme

I found no alarm bells in hand at all, I know it sounds strange because Iam actually preet weird but I call the finish seeping into the reverse butthole finish , I call it this because it seeps into the cracks.


Best,
dion

Hi Dion

There are many refinished badges circulating, so If something looks strange to me, I feel I need to highlight it.

Thanks for posting your pics, they do show the badge in a different light.

Let's see how the test goes.

Seeping into the reverse butthole finish is a new one on me, but it could stick

take it easy
Graeme

[münster]

Hi Dion

There are many refinished badges circulating, so If something looks strange to me, I feel I need to highlight it.

Thanks for posting your pics, they do show the badge in a different light.

Let's see how the test goes.

Seeping into the reverse butthole finish is a new one on me, but it could stick

take it easy
Graeme

I have a whole weird set of terminology that is only beknowst to me nd some others. Lets keep it that way Graeme lol.

Best,
Dion