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    #1

    Another bronze "daisy" PAB for review

    I recently sold this one via the estand. The new owner claims it is a repro.

    I would appreciate the comments of some of the experienced PAB collectors.

    Any info. would be appreciated. Thanks.
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        Hi Peter

        Doesnt look good where the turret meets the wreath according to this thread ??

        Where is the mint meister when you need him ??

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          #5
          It is a repro...look at the gap between the turret and the wreath...thanks Philippe for the info.
          Last edited by StevenD; 03-15-2004, 08:56 PM.

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            #6
            Hi the main thing I see from your's and the repo in the thread is the swastika,your's is sharp and detailed and the repo is poorly detailed(upper right arm) I don't see a problem with the turret and the wreath meeting point. The detail over all looks good.

            As a foot note I do see that the gap is wider at the turret and wreath but the wreath border is still there and has detail compaired to the cast repo (just like the swastika,the detail is not there) So is it a repo or just another varation?? since no one knows how many or who the makers were. Or is the gap a product of hand finishing? The silver and bronze shown both have slighty differant gaps.

            These are just my observations


            David R.
            Last edited by David R.; 03-15-2004, 08:59 PM.

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              #7
              Hi Peter......

              Simple.......if the new owner is unhappy you should refund his money.

              Then go out and get another opinion. The kind of opinion that can me made by direct observation.

              I know what I think. It's time for target practice.

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              Bruce

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                #8
                Could we please have better pics, Thanks, Ed Maroli

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                  #9
                  Peter,
                  I bought into this PAB when it was first shown . After the great work done by Greg and Phillipe I would say off hand it is not good. Like Ed said, closer pictures would be needed. This way you might be able to see the casting pock-marks that were shown in the badge listed by Greg and Phillipe.

                  Chet
                  Zinc stinks!

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                    #10
                    IMO one of these new fakes.
                    Cheers, Frank

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                      #11
                      Hi Guys,


                      After I'm misjudged Greg's daisy when he posted it the first time I'm getting very carefull in reaching a definitive conclusions only based upon pictures.

                      However based upon what I learned from handling Greg badge the above posted Daisies stays a fake for me untill somebody post a good daisy with that round cut-out between tank and turret that also has the exact measurments. Like I stated in the other thread, from the 26 daysies I used as bench mark non showed this feature.

                      I'll now post a picture of a badge once sold by Toby R, and I hope the new owner won't mind. This is an original Daisy with the much softer looking reverse and a more shiny bronze finish. IMO the fakers used this type to create there copie.

                      KR
                      Philippe

                      PS: Based upon what we now know it's my opinion that the buyer of this badge should have full return priviledge, no questions asked.
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                        reverse, soft and dented
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                          Whether the buyer will get his money back is not an issue....he will...as I abide by the estand rules.

                          I have owned this piece for approximately four years, so as far as it being a "new" type of fake I'm not so sure.

                          Philippe, I previously sent you pics. of this one and you gave it the thumbs up.

                          I am unable to post better pics. until the piece is returned to me.

                          When I have the piece in hand I will be able to check it against some of the characteristics identified in the previous thread.
                          Last edited by Peter B; 03-16-2004, 03:08 AM.

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                            Peter,

                            how about doing some sizes. Seeing as this has been cast from an original, and after reading the Daisy fake thread we know that these are considerably smaller than the originals.

                            The round cutout between turret and wreath is pretty damming though.

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                              Originally posted by Peter B
                              Philippe, I previously sent you pics. of this one and you gave it the thumbs up.
                              Hi Peter,

                              Just did a search through all my e-mails at my office adress but couldn't find the pics you send me, I'll take a look at my e-mails at home tonight.

                              However thats not the point, I also gave Greg's Daisy thumbs up when he first posted it, sorry but I'm not infallible.

                              Problem with this badge is that is is so good that it's almost impossible to recognize from a picture alone. Certainly when the pictures arent that good.

                              Thats also the reason why I have been looking for a feature that could give it away even from blurry pictures and untill proven wrong that feature for me remains the rounded cut-out between turret and wreath.

                              KR
                              Philippe

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