AS Triangle PAB

[lemalouin]

All is correct for this AS Triangle PAB and a nice patine I like it

[Gregorio Torres]

What a great looking badge! I would also not clean her, she's perfect the way she is.

It´s a question of opinions. I´d prefer her clean, like this one from my collection:
Greg

[Gregorio Torres]

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[Matthew J.]

Nice Badge!! I like this maker...... here is mine. Matt

[Matthew J.]

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[mike y]

It´s a question of opinions. I´d prefer her clean, like this one from my collection:
Greg

Yours too is a nice looking badge, that is if you like the mint, unissued, unworn and never "been there" look.

[all1knew]

Yours too is a nice looking badge, that is if you like the mint, unissued, unworn and never "been there" look.

Agreed. As to why people collect anything of the period in mint condition is beyond me, and the history for that matter.

William Kramer

[Christopher G.]

Nice ones guys...they both have a different finish though...they are the chrome finish rather than the matte silver like the one I posted. Either or is ok for me though...

Regard,
Chris G.

[Gregorio Torres]

Yours too is a nice looking badge, that is if you like the mint, unissued, unworn and never "been there" look.

Do you call "mint" to my badge? Have you watch it carefully? Trust in me, if it was a "mint" its worth would be the double than now, cause there are quite less amount of medals in mint condition than in worn condition.
IMO patinas must be NEVER removed, but I don´t like the dirt. Patina and dirt are differents things.
I like a lot the look of Chris´ badge , but I think if it was mine, I´d remove a bit of dirt. Just my opinion. Chris is who have to choose.
Anycase, as you know, nice patinas may be created in a couple of days by homemade procedures, and an expert can´t distinguish it from a old patina. But you can´t make a mint from a well worn badge.
This is the reason why mint are more valuable than worn items, simply.
Anycase, this is a general rule, and every collector is a world. In instance, I prefer to spend my money in a worn badge than in a mint one, but I can understand people who loves mint items. Why not? Really it´s more dificult to understand why all of us love to spend a lot of money and time in this things.
To finish, I´m not talking about mint versus worn badges, but about clean versus dirty items.
Regards
Greg

[mike y]

Do you call "mint" to my badge? Have you watch it carefully? Trust in me, if it was a "mint" its worth would be the double than now, cause there are quite less amount of medals in mint condition than in worn condition.
IMO patinas must be NEVER removed, but I don´t like the dirt. Patina and dirt are differents things.
I like a lot the look of Chris´ badge , but I think if it was mine, I´d remove a bit of dirt. Just my opinion. Chris is who have to choose.
Anycase, as you know, nice patinas may be created in a couple of days by homemade procedures, and an expert can´t distinguish it from a old patina. But you can´t make a mint from a well worn badge.
This is the reason why mint are more valuable than worn items, simply.
Anycase, this is a general rule, and every collector is a world. In instance, I prefer to spend my money in a worn badge than in a mint one, but I can understand people who loves mint items. Why not? Really it´s more dificult to understand why all of us love to spend a lot of money and time in this things.
To finish, I´m not talking about mint versus worn badges, but about clean versus dirty items.
Regards
Greg

I wouldn't say your badge is mint, but it I feel safe in saying its unissued and has never been worn.

[Gregorio Torres]

You´ve a mistake Mike. This "unissued and never been worn" badge has still as legitimate owner to SS-Unterscharführer Erich Sommer 3.SS-Pz.Pi.Btl.10 from 10. Waffen SS Div. "Frundsberg", veteran in Normandy, Arnhem, Ukraine....
This hero lives near of me, he´s my friend and he lets me this PAB and some other items in my collection in 2002 but he cans recover it when he wanted. And he was who told me that this is the original piece which was given to him in Ukraine in 1944. He was who keep it clean. I´ve never touched it.
On the other way, if you look carefully (better if you had it in your hand) you can see that almost all the silver paint in the front is gone, thought in the reverse it´s 95% there.
As you see, as we say in Spain, our eyes lies... sometimes.
Regards
Greg

[Gregorio Torres]

This is the first page of a interview of the refered man, written by me and published in a spanish magazine. The youngman on the right is Erich Sommer.
And sorry Chris cause I have the impresion that we are stolen your thread about your nice PAB. Sorry.
Regards
Greg

[Gregorio Torres]

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[mike y]

You´ve a mistake Mike. This "unissued and never been worn" badge has still as legitimate owner to SS-Unterscharführer Erich Sommer 3.SS-Pz.Pi.Btl.10 from 10. Waffen SS Div. "Frundsberg", veteran in Normandy, Arnhem, Ukraine....
This hero lives near of me, he´s my friend and he lets me this PAB and some other items in my collection in 2002 but he cans recover it when he wanted. And he was who told me that this is the original piece which was given to him in Ukraine in 1944. He was who keep it clean. I´ve never touched it.
On the other way, if you look carefully (better if you had it in your hand) you can see that almost all the silver paint in the front is gone, thought in the reverse it´s 95% there.
As you see, as we say in Spain, our eyes lies... sometimes.
Regards
Greg

Wow!!! thanks for the information on your badge. But you have to admit the photos you have provided does make the badge look like and unissued piece.

[Gregorio Torres]

Yes, Mike. I´m not the best photographer, and the items look different when you have them in your hand. You didn´t know the provenience and the badge is in very good condition, so... the mistake is posible for everybody.
Best Regards
Greg