Unusual cuff insignia

[ten]

Hi,

I have an old photo of my grandfather's wedding showing him in full [pre1939] Obersturmbahnfuhrer [SS] party kit. He started out as a ship's radio officer, spoke 7 languages and was, I believe, more part of their internal workings than a fighting officer.

Oddly, some papers we've uncovered show he was captured around the end of the war around Belgium and was interned, briefly, as a POW there... but the papers show he passed himself off as a 'grenadier'.

On the uniform in the photo [my mother wont allow me to borrow it for scanning purposes] on his cuff there is a typical black and silver lined band similar to other units but on it are marked 'M3'. I have never seen these anywhere, or heard of them referred to.

It was said [in the family] he was part of Hitler's Leibstandart. Obviously I'm a little sensitive about this, but could anyone throw any light on it?

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum.

[inimicus]

Hi,

I have an old photo of my grandfather's wedding showing him in full [pre1939] Obersturmbahnfuhrer [SS] party kit. He started out as a ship's radio officer, spoke 7 languages and was, I believe, more part of their internal workings than a fighting officer.

Oddly, some papers we've uncovered show he was captured around the end of the war around Belgium and was interned, briefly, as a POW there... but the papers show he passed himself off as a 'grenadier'.

On the uniform in the photo [my mother wont allow me to borrow it for scanning purposes] on his cuff there is a typical black and silver lined band similar to other units but on it are marked 'M3'. I have never seen these anywhere, or heard of them referred to.

It was said [in the family] he was part of Hitler's Leibstandart. Obviously I'm a little sensitive about this, but could anyone throw any light on it?

Apologies if this is in the wrong forum.

are you sure its the CUFF and not the COLLAR insignia? "M" on the collar tab meant
"motorstandarte," i.e., a transportation unit. signal 'tabs had a single lightning bolt or "blitz." but others more worldly in these matters can comment further.

please post this image.

[ten]

Nope, definitely on the cuff and very similar to Das Reich etc.

He's in full dress uniform.

[ten]

please post this image.

I will try... but I'm sure you understand we're very sensitive about this and have never spoken about it outside the family.

[ten]

Here it is.... I don't know how long it will be hosted for as photobucket has restrictions for swastikas etc.

The photo is signed and dated 1935 on the back, so it's a very early one.

[Ludwig]

Looks a little bit like Jochen Peiper!?!